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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#12

I have literally never looked at dislikes ever as a measure for quality.

They're helpful when searching for tutorials especially on topics you don't know much about. It's a way to navigate the big mess of unknown to me channels. For example, if I'm looking for a video on how to fix something at home, the downvote ratio can quickly tell me if someone is giving bad advice or just rambling and wasting my time.

For channels I watch regularly downvotes aren't relevant at all.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#14
YouTube actually works pretty well for me. Most of the time I get great suggestions and it feels like there's a lot of great content to watch (if only I had the time to actually watch everything).

I don't know the inner workings of YTs algorithms, but I believe it helps that I never watch the low quality drivel and have very focused topics that I subscribe to.

I also don't spend too much time on YouTube so every time I do check it out it seems like there's new content from several high quality channels.

The dislike button was fairly useless in the channels that I visit.

When I seldomly open the "trending" section by mistake, I am usually appalled.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#15
I don't personally think the dislike button is the explanation. But something seems to have changed in the Youtube recommendations algo in the last few weeks.

In my experience, the algo has gotten very noticeably worse recently:

- Recommending lots of 6 - 12 year old videos on topics I'm interested in (who cares about a 12 year old product review?)

- Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending really, really old videos from people I normally watch. It's always done this, but it seems worse recently.

- Trying to push "streamer bro" meme videos on me, which seem aimed at 12 year old kids

- The algo seems to be really clinging to recommending only videos about the last few topics I searched and totally forgetting my main interests. Look up a video on a new car you just bought? Congratulations, Youtube will now recommend you every video ever produced about that car forever to the exclusion of whatever it is you are actually interested in even if you have never shown an interest in cars.

Maybe someone who works at Youtube knows if a new recommendation system was pushed out recently or something? It's miserable.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#16
listen almost only music on youtube. it used to recommend only music i liked, specific to the genres i enjoy even, very nice!.

nowadays i get all kinds of crap. Additionally, if i watch a single non-music video now, I get tons and tons of recommended crap different from what i used to, so it kind of feels like the algo is more sensitive now to drop nonsense on u if u accidentally click some youtube url, or watch a video not related to your usual content.

before, it might recommend such a thing once or twice, and then learn again it's not what i like. now i feel like it's constantly just dropping ads on me (sh*t videos of popular channels i don't care about - ADs.) any opportunity it sees. oh, he watched 2 seconds of some video because he clicked a url on his phone... whole front page becomes full of this type of crap... using other sites and apps now to listen music. Asif the 'are you still watching' on a 3 hour musical mix wasn't stupid enough to constantly be asked...

I am pretty sure if you pay them , it will work better and recommend more suitable stuff. Stupid tactic, because now they lose ad revenue rather than gain subscribers - i think a service which provides good service is worth subscribing too, not a service which is 'only-good-when-you-pay-for-it'. - if that's the case, just put the entire thing behind a paywall and own the fact u've become such an entity...

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#19
Guys, ok youtube recommendations suck, they may not always have, I don’t know, but does it really matter that much that you need to share your frustration to a community of thousands of tech people?

It’s just a product. You don’t complain online when your brand new sneakers hurt your feet, do you? Especially if you got them for free…

You don’t like youtube recommendation engine, complain to them, not to us.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#20
Yeah also it just so happens that when I scroll through my feed, I pass by videos I have already seen or where I actively decided NOT to watch them beause they were prompted to me already 20 times or so and I still won't click it. It's to the point where I hit the "I dont wanna see this" button on a video because youtube keeps pushing VERY hard to make me see certain videos. Recommendations are trash. I used to find videos I like to watch within seconds but nowadays its just endless repetetive scrolling and nothing of interest.
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