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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#1
Spoiler: rant.

I don't know what happened exactly but I'm pretty sure it's the lack of dislike stats, that now my suggestions and home page of youtube is filled, and I mean FILLEDDD!, with videos that have 4k stock clips, catchy title, but completely lacking in content. Misleading 100%. Not 1, not 2, but like 8/10 videos are now garbage stock footage with bs commentary over nothing.

Example:

Nasa just discovered truth about solar system!?!?!?!

Science has progressed a lot in last 100 years....

So and so first discovered pluto in 1xxx

Mayans used to think balbala...

Some historians think....

Now scientist finally have answered....

New evidence (2014 research) shows there might be a planet ...

No explanation of study because you know it actually requires some comprehension...

Insert failed attempt at humor...

Leave a comment on your thoughts..

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Same script, like 8th grade essay you didn't study for, but multiplied by 100x.

We knew it was gonna ruin youtube, people told youtube it was gonna ruin it, and now exactly that happened. Click baity videos with nice stock footage that is barely relevant and half assed 'answers'.

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#2
YouTube is still useful. It's a giant repository of videos that get indexed by search engines.

The way to use it is:

1) know what you want to watch beforehand

2) search using a different engine like DDG

3) use yt-dl to grab the video and watch offline

The mistake would be to "log in" to the actual site, and click on the "recommended" rubbish and all that algorithmic cruft to manipulate, data-mine your soul and mislead you.

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#3

YouTube is still useful. It's a giant repository of videos that get indexed by search engines. The way to use it is: 1) know what you want to watch beforehand 2) search using a different engine like DDG 3) use yt-dl to grab the video and watch offline The mistake would be to "log in" to the actual site, and click on the "recommended" rubbish and all that algorithmic cruft to manipulate, data-mine your soul and mislea…

when i know what i want, it works. But when I am just scrolling to find something new, it is noticeably more clickbaity now.

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#4
I only use the Subscriptions tab - the Home tab was junk even before the dislike removal (which doesn't negate your point).

One still gets recommendations, namely those at the right of the video you're watching. Those tend to be more relevant than Home's.

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#5
I used the like/dislike ratio to see if something is actually a good video about the topic I'm searching, or should I continue further. For example, if I search "volvo s40 MAF sensor replacement", I won't watch someone ramble 20 minutes about how volvos are good, and why they chose the car in white instead of blue color... I want someone who'll pop the hood and replace the sensor, and those videos will usually have a better like/dislike ratio compared to the random rambling videos. The ratio was the telling thing if a "how to" video was good. I'd rather watch a video that has only 100 likes, but 0 dislikes, than a video that has 1000 likes and 5000 dislikes. But now that's gone, R.I.P.

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#6
I noticed that “Do not recommend channel” and “Not interested” do actually work if you’re persistent enough. Doesn’t liberate from the regular hassle, but at least something. Maybe dislikes and these features are connected in some way (never liked or disliked any video, can’t tell).

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#8

YouTube is still useful. It's a giant repository of videos that get indexed by search engines. The way to use it is: 1) know what you want to watch beforehand 2) search using a different engine like DDG 3) use yt-dl to grab the video and watch offline The mistake would be to "log in" to the actual site, and click on the "recommended" rubbish and all that algorithmic cruft to manipulate, data-mine your soul and mislea…

Personally, the algorithm works very effectively at stealing my time.

Bikini catwalks, scamming phone scammers, MMA fights, math entertainment, people who build cool shit.

This is of course subjective, but I basically can't open youtube.com without wasting 10 minutes.

If I ever get the idea of going to YouTube for a legit purpose (e.g. finding a conference talk, or listening to music), my brain's first response is "oh no", because I know I have to endure at least ten minutes of entertainment. YouTube's TikTok clone is even worse, but not as good as actual TikTok.

I can only say it works like drugs.

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#9
It saddens me what will be lost if youtube continues on this route, 99% of the content is garbage, and the 1% good content is hardly monetizable, and there is 0.001% that content creators monetize with some form of sponsorship, but not so much from google's pov

You can see Dirac himself speak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma7TSAq87lg), Feynman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3mhkYbznBk), Jung(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs3HK3pxVAY), Minsky, McCarthy, Ellul, Ram Dass, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Terence McKenna and Alan Watts and many many more people who greatly influenced our understanding and way of life

Youtube is quickly turning worse, just as google, with the flood of click baity content, and not only them, look at cnn.com or foxnews.com you will see every single article is with click bait title.

I dont think the issue is in the dislike button, I think they have to up their game to help you navigate the sea of garbage to find some islands of good content.

The reddit rule of 90/9/1% is no longer true (90% of community members are lurkers who read or observe, but don't contribute. 9% of community members edit or respond to content but don't create content of their own) now it seems we are more to 20/30/50% (my intuition), and the tooling and understanding used to decide what content to create and game the system has improved a lot. Like in video games, the way people play videogames now is fundamentally different than 5 years ago, now you are expected to minmax your character, items, gameplay etc because there are so many tools and guides out there to help you, but the same happens with content creation.

Its a different world now, and the algorithms have not caught up yet.

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#10
I have never gone to the YouTube homepage or suggestions (don't even know where that is) to try to find content.

Literally every video play I've ever done on YouTube had been the result of a direct link or me searching for something.

I get that there are people that go to the homepage to see what's there and click stuff but I find it totally unfathomable (not least because who has the time?!).

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