Quite funny from a chap who has google+, twitter, digg and facebook button on his page. At the very least, the facebook one tracks users even when they are logged out. He does make a good point, re developers not caring about anything hidden behind the scenes. Good to see them being named and shamed.
Secret iOS business; what you don’t know about your apps
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#43On the other hand it shows extreme naïvety.
As bad as this may seem, almost every company I have ever worked for - and I have worked for at least a dozen of the world's biggest most profitable companies - none of them care about security in practice. Publicly it's a different story, but back in the security department this happens:
1) security is always an afterthought on every project even if someone put it in the plan
2) the security department covers the entire organisation, that is: all processes, functions, applications, buildings, staff, hardware and software
3) the people that work in the security department cannot possibly have the kind of in-depth knowledge of every one of these and practically never have deep knowledge of any single one, to make the right decisions
4) the power of "No" is used in the place of finding out what is really needed from the real experts who don't work in security - ie they don't listen to anyone who doesn't work in their function
The result is that most companies are vulnerable at almost every turn, but take the view that they only need to shut the barn door after the horse has bolted. And it makes perfect economic sense, as long as the horse has not bolted.
If it has bolted then the decision makers go into damage limitation. That's how companies work so it does not surprise me at all that skilled knowledgeable people can expose these issues with ease.
It's inevitable that what we saw at Sony will happen again and again. Perhaps this was the root cause of Blackberry's recent woes too. We may never know.
Like he says... we live in interesting times.
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#44Yes, it would be nice to implement a caching and resizing service for the feed - but there's often not the budget nor time to implement one. And BigContentCo is not willing to pay the developers to host and supply bandwidth - especially when the app is free.
TL;DR development does not happen in a vacuum.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not like cofounding a company that was purchased by Flurry doesn't make you biased or anything. http://www.flurry.com/about-us/merger/welcome.html (Thanks Timothee for pointing it out further down the thread)
And this is supposed to have something to do with the correctness or incorrectness of what I wrote? It would be bizarre if your ideas, beliefs, and opinions didn't reflect themselves in your economic interests. Engage with the argument and not the arguer.
Surely you can recognize how your financial relation to Flurry colours your comments about them?
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#48So, wait, it's possible for me to actually download inefficient apps on my iPhone? Onoes! Seriously, why is "iOS" in the title? Boo.
IOS is singled out because iOS is what all the test cases featured in the post were done on. The author does mention the issues are likely endemic to all mobile app platforms. As a word of unsolicited advice, It's best to set your emotional attachments to a platform aside if you want to engage or broaden the discussion on legitimate technical matters.
My like or dislike of iOS has nothing to do with this, I simply want to find links to higher quality, more honest content on HN. Next time consider keeping your unsolicited advice to yourself.
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#49The most bandwidth-hungry app in the sample downloaded 12 MB in the first 30 seconds. Most apps used far far less. Details are in http://www.neildaswani.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Mobile...
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Actually, I find that to be creepy. You are basically stalking your users.
Actually, I find that to be creepy. You are basically stalking your users. What's the difference between that and installing Google Analytics on your website?
The better question is: What's the difference between this and a desktop application that gathers your data?
If the same thing happened with a desktop app (spying on your every click, "calling home"), it was labeled as spyware within days.