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The Agony and The Ecstasy of Steve Jobs

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Re: The Agony and The Ecstasy of Steve Jobs

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can. As CEO, one of his responsibilities was to create an organisation that would endure. Apple itself may be Steve Job's greatest creation. The test of the next 10 years is to see if that is true.

So the theory here is that the greatest CEO of all time was able to mind-meld his vision, drive, creativity, discipline, and all his other forms of genius into the corporate structure of Apple? Oh brother. Do you guys hear yourselves?

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/06/business/la-fi-apple...

Re: The Agony and The Ecstasy of Steve Jobs

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can. As CEO, one of his responsibilities was to create an organisation that would endure. Apple itself may be Steve Job's greatest creation. The test of the next 10 years is to see if that is true.

So the theory here is that the greatest CEO of all time was able to mind-meld his vision, drive, creativity, discipline, and all his other forms of genius into the corporate structure of Apple? Oh brother. Do you guys hear yourselves?

Are you saying Steve couldn't train others in what is impotent and what is not? The only choices are "Steve was the only Apple employee" or "Steve had no influence at all"?

None of the Apple execs are the same people they were 10 years ago. This is a joint interaction between them and Steve. Those changes have the potential to continue to guide Apple successfully (but it is by no means certain).

It's not different than my kids following my beliefs if I died today.

Re: The Agony and The Ecstasy of Steve Jobs

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For the sake of those who do not refuse to think for themselves, let me say this: there was no agony in Steve Job's life, only the exaltation of living a full, rich, happy life in the course of which he saw the realization of his highest values. Steve Jobs was a true hero: an extraordinarily productive and creative man who inspired and gave hope to so many by showing them what incredible achievements are possible to a human being. He showed them a life worth-living. And, most importantly, Steve Jobs was a PROFOUNDLY MORAL man.

He was moral because of his values - the relentless pursuit of beauty and perfection in his work and life, to the utmost of his ability. He was moral because those values came from within himself, from the functioning of his own mind, and not second-hand from the morass of ideas going by the name of “morality” today. He was moral because he never gave up his ideas for the sake of others’ approval. He was moral because he did not give the unearned and undeserved and he did not seek the unearned and undeserved from others. He was moral because he had a SELF that embodied the best in man.

Those who measure morality by how much you give away to others, known or unknown, deserving or undeserving, do not understand that. They do not understand that before you can give, you have to create, but before you can create, your primary concern must be the process of creation itself, not the potential beneficiary of that creation. Yet, that is the only mechanism through which all can truly benefit. They do not understand the difference between forcing or cheating or defrauding and signing a voluntary contract. They feel guilty for buying a phone, but never question the morality that tells them they should feel so and never seek the roots of that guilt. They rail against the capitalist creator, but ignore the fact that bad working conditions are the logical result of a controlled economy, as if hundreds of millions of victims of communism were not enough to prove that. They scream in defense of the poor Chinese worker, but never ask how it happened that that worker never rose against its real oppressor.

Yes, Steve Jobs is my hero. And my other hero is Ayn Rand, who helped me understand what makes people like Steve Jobs possible. But she only showed me - my mind had to do the rest. I thought for myself, taking nothing for granted. I urge everyone to do the same.

Re: The Agony and The Ecstasy of Steve Jobs

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All Apple had to do to be different was to have their own factory in China (as opposed to contracting FoxConn), use the cheaper workforce, and treat the employees better. Blind outsourcing is the culprit here I believe.

All Apple had to do to ... was to have their own factory in China Like that is easy. Companies use organizations like FoxConn for a reason: cost is one of them. Expertise is another. Apple is good at what they do. Being able to make the stuff they design requires a whole 'nother corporate skill set.

Corporate greed is always about blind outsourcing. You get the savings and you don't care how you get them. I have no doubt that Apple is capable of manufacturing their own devices. They chose not to. If workers were getting treated like crap, Apple is to blame. period.

I'm not saying don't make stuff in China, I'm saying we can be good employers in China and set a standard by treating employees like we would expect NA employees to be treated, with respect and dignity.

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