The End of Industrial Society

Post by tablespoon » Mon, May 09, 2022, 1:31 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #136

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Even so, I think Mexico would be a far more logical first target in that scenario than Canada, especially if the Canadians took pains not to annoy the new leaders.

Climate change makes Canada much more useful than Mexico. The United States has enough arid desert already.

Post by JaimeThompson » Mon, May 09, 2022, 2:10 PM UTC

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"Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron." Which he clarified this way after so much outrage. "It would be absurd to suggest that women’s votes will be taken away or that this would solve the political problems that vex us. Wh…

What about this paragraph, then? > But I must confess that over the last two decades, I have changed radically on the question of how to achieve these goals. Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible. His talk of women being a "problem" in politics is just one example of this broader theme in the article. He talks about establishing a new territory (where /who/ would rule exactly…

Post by usrn » Mon, May 09, 2022, 2:51 PM UTC

beaconstudios wrote: post #184

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Half the country voted for Trump, do you really want to tell all of them they're in the same group as the Nazis? They might just take you at your word.

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Post by TheCoelacanth » Mon, May 09, 2022, 3:44 PM UTC

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> If you have some sort of proceedings to make Peter Thiel a Duke, there might also be ways to strip him of his title for cause. Which might actually increase the public's collective power over acknowledged elites, and that without any resort to the more physical means you alluded to in your comment. After all, it would be more of a routine quasi-criminal sanction than a social revolution. This is specious reasoning.…

It's not like I'm inventing anything here. Back in the times and places where noble titles were taken seriously as markers of increased social legitimacy, stripping people of them was an acknowledged thing. Far more reversible than things like the guillotine, which in practice was way more comparable to your human-to-mulch machine - and that in its long-range society-wide effects, as much as its more immediate ones.

Post by caeril » Mon, May 09, 2022, 4:43 PM UTC

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I get it, you're a fascist. But no, it isn't. edit: so people told you you were a fascist and, to own the libs, you decided to abandon what you believed in? must've been a pretty tenuous belief for you to switch from pro-liberty to pro-authoritarianism so easily, but so many libertarians do so that it's unsurprising. it's almost like capitalism is inherently authoritarian... I just assume you fell down the alt-right…