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Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#21
Disconnecting from work should be fine. That's a boundary most should have outside of high stakes life and death jobs. Even then, coverage by more than one person should be warranted, and paid for.

Personal phone? That's my lifeline to civilization if something bad happens. Also an AV capture device.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#22

Being forced to pay for council parking in the UK using a mobile app is completely astonishing to me, and leaving home without your mobile, or no data or a broken phone can cause you a world of difficulties. I didn't agree to wanting to normalise the removal of parking meters and mandatory app usage just to park your car in a park or highsteet. I'm not sure where this motivation started.

If you have to have a phone to pay for things like parking or for proof of vaccination status, then you have to carry a locator beacon that can be tracked, and your movements can be recorded. Who records them (Google, Apple, someone else) is irrelevant; the record can be requisitioned by your government or a Five Eyes partner at the touch of a few buttons. Your locator beacon comes with handy built-in cameras and microphones, and it probably has speech-to-text capability on chip if you have a recent model. Also it's reading your mail and texts and encrypted chats, and you browse the web on it, so it potentially knows a lot about you. Good thing you can trust it not to spy on you.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#23
my friend's phone died last year and he

1) couldn't get inside anywhere to charge it because he didn't have his covid vaccine card anywhere

2) couldn't scan a menu to order at the outdoor cafe we found in the mean time

it was amusing, it stopped being fun very quickly, but we figured it out. these two scenarios are obviously not as relevant any more

but its way beyond "addiction"

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#24
post #15

I feel uncomfortable leaving without my phone, for one simple reason: I’m typically leaving with my pup, and if anything happens to either of us I want to be able to call for help. Pay phones are basically non-existent, people understandably don’t like to let strangers use their phone. It’s just a basic precaution.

I have had this same thought in the past. I came to the conclusions that it’s a psychological trick we’re playing on ourselves. The mitigation against such a low risk event is not worth the price we’re paying. - sent from my iPhone

This is so true!

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#25
I was on holiday once with my friends in Amsterdam. After a few too many drinks and committing a sin and having a wee in the canal (sorry! When a man's gotta go he's gotta go - as an aside what's it with bars, clubs & fast food chains there etc. charging to use the toilet?!) a guy came up to me and started talking to me, can't really remember what he said to me, all I remember is checking my pocket and my new OnePlus 3t phone had disappeared. Karma I suppose.

We had another leg of the holiday in Finland (Helsinki) and then back to Amsterdam again for another day before returning to the UK. It was painful where all my friends had their phones and could take pictures etc. and I couldn't.

I couldn't even borrow a friend's phone to check emails/Facebook etc. as I'm security conscious and have 2FA enabled on all my accounts, and use a password manager with generated passwords also. My less technically inclined friends called me an idiot.

Thankfully when I got back to the UK I was able to get a replacement SIM card the next day from the network provider's store and I had an older Android phone to use for the time being and was able to go through the Authy SMS recovery process to get my 2FA codes back.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#26

Being forced to pay for council parking in the UK using a mobile app is completely astonishing to me, and leaving home without your mobile, or no data or a broken phone can cause you a world of difficulties. I didn't agree to wanting to normalise the removal of parking meters and mandatory app usage just to park your car in a park or highsteet. I'm not sure where this motivation started.

Was there literally no alternative? Round these parts you can pay in cash (with no change given). I've heard people complain they were forced to use the app when they just didn't have any cash.

(I have to be aware of the alternatives because I don't have a smartphone. It's not been an insurmountable problem yet.)

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#27
post #14

"Stories set in the Culture in which Things Went Wrong tended to start with humans losing or forgetting or deliberately leaving behind their terminal. It was a conventional opening, the equivalent of straying off the path in the wild woods in one age, or a car breaking down at night on a lonely road in another. A terminal, in the shape of a ring, button, bracelet or pen or whatever, was your link with everybody and e…

First thing I thought about as well. I really think The Culture is very special in its ability to "feel" the future.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#28

I feel uncomfortable leaving without my phone, for one simple reason: I’m typically leaving with my pup, and if anything happens to either of us I want to be able to call for help. Pay phones are basically non-existent, people understandably don’t like to let strangers use their phone. It’s just a basic precaution.

The loss of pay phones over the last 20 years is a loss to society. We used to have widespread access to cheap and anonymous emergency calling.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#29
I've gotten used to having my phone on silent and most notifications turned off. I leave text and phone notifications on so I can see them on the lock screen when I decide to look at the phone.

For moments when I actually need to be aware of any communications or be in sync with family and friends, I can turn on the ringer or turn on specific notifications.

I think this has helped me get away from the constant distraction but keeps the utility of the phone near. It annoys me when, during conversations, people constantly check their phone and smart watch every few minutes because of the buzz in their pocket or their wrist.

I have also found going on weekend backpacking trips has weaned me off of the phone and technology in general. I would recommend it for those looking to take a break.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#30
post #14

"Stories set in the Culture in which Things Went Wrong tended to start with humans losing or forgetting or deliberately leaving behind their terminal. It was a conventional opening, the equivalent of straying off the path in the wild woods in one age, or a car breaking down at night on a lonely road in another. A terminal, in the shape of a ring, button, bracelet or pen or whatever, was your link with everybody and e…

So I had a feeling "without a terminal" was a typo and I wanted to look up the exact quote. I googled the sentence and expected the right quote to be at the top, but all Google gave me was results for helping people with terminal cancer cope with their coming death.

It was only after I appended "Ian M Banks" that I got the result I was looking for. I'm honestly surprised Google failed that search so hard.

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