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Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid.

If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swap out the SIM from the dumbphone to your smartphone if your threat model requires you to.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#12

Being forced to pay for council parking in the UK using a mobile app is completely astonishing to me, and leaving home without your mobile, or no data or a broken phone can cause you a world of difficulties. I didn't agree to wanting to normalise the removal of parking meters and mandatory app usage just to park your car in a park or highsteet. I'm not sure where this motivation started.

at least individual spot meters were reduced to block meters so that there was less physical infrastructure to maintain.

in my city part of the motivation is data collection; rates are adjusted block by block based on the last quarter's occupancy relative to targets, and among other things the app nudges people towards slightly less optimal parking spots that are either cheaper or more available.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#13
I liked that reflection. I’m lucky enough that my manager is very intentional in actively avoiding and mitigating any possible work related anything during the weekends.

When I get a call (as opposed to a slack message) it’s only because something is REALLY on fire.

This really allows me to disconnect completely from work with the assurance that in an extreme situation I could still be reached.

It’s also important to clarify what is considered important because honestly I get a call over the weekend to implement so “quick feature”, that would be a clear signal that it might be time to part ways with such company culture.

All I’m saying is, it starts with the individual marking the boundaries and then either talking the the manager or finding a place that respects those boundaries.

(I’m aware of some violations of boundaries from bosses that if they’d happen to me I’d likely seek for a restraining order!)

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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"Stories set in the Culture in which Things Went Wrong tended to start with humans losing or forgetting or deliberately leaving behind their terminal. It was a conventional opening, the equivalent of straying off the path in the wild woods in one age, or a car breaking down at night on a lonely road in another.

A terminal, in the shape of a ring, button, bracelet or pen or whatever, was your link with everybody and everything else in the Culture. Without a terminal, you were never more than a question or a shout away from almost anything you wanted to know, or almost any help you could possibly need."

--Iain M. Banks, in The Player of Games

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#15

I feel uncomfortable leaving without my phone, for one simple reason: I’m typically leaving with my pup, and if anything happens to either of us I want to be able to call for help. Pay phones are basically non-existent, people understandably don’t like to let strangers use their phone. It’s just a basic precaution.

I have had this same thought in the past. I came to the conclusions that it’s a psychological trick we’re playing on ourselves. The mitigation against such a low risk event is not worth the price we’re paying.

- sent from my iPhone

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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I think it's fine to be uncomfortable without your phone. It's understandable: they do so many useful things. However, it turns out what this post is really about is work communication, not about the functionality of phones that enhance our lives. When you're trying to get friends together, find a nice place to eat, and get directions to meet up, having a phone is far better than not having one. I wouldn't want to be…

> I think it's fine to be uncomfortable without your phone. It's understandable: they do so many useful things. The problem is that you can't take what's in your phone and have it somewhere else: for example a web-browser in a public space like a library or an internet cafe. If that were possible, then it would be less of a problem to leave your phone at home.

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Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

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Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid. If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swa…

> but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid.

It would be nice to not live that way sometimes you know? There are places where people aren’t conditioned to feel that way.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#19

Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid. If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swa…

Pre-phones, it just wasn’t something you thought about. If you came up with a phone, you just may not be able to get it.

Re: Feeling uncomfortable when leaving phone at home shouldn't be normal

#20

Well not that I live in a bad neighborhood or anything like that, but you really don't know what could happen at any given moment, and need to phone emergency services. This is not paranoia (well maybe it is), but paranoia doesn't work retroactively, you have to be proactively paranoid. If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swa…

There's places where a phone won't help you at all. On the other hand, just screaming will. Screaming, like not yelling, screaming. Helped me out exactly three weeks ago today, when I was getting coercively shepherded by supermarket guards, into the supermarket, because the cashier accused me of not paying. But they weren't interested in seeing my receipt. Just in harassing me. Fortunately Jessica at the Farmacias Manríquez (near Merced and José Miguel de la Barra in downtown Santiago) across the street heard me scream "I want you to call the real cops! You have no right to do this! Look at my receipt!" (in Spanish of course) and called my people, whom I couldn't reach because I left my phone at home. And they showed up, asked what the fuck, and I talked to the lawyer extensively about it, he agreed it was harassment and coercive threats.

Who knew, screaming calls attention? And I couldn't use a phone because my hands were full, I was carrying glass bottles home that way because I didn't want to pay for a plastic bag. If I dropped them, they would say since they accused me of stealing them that I destroyed the merchandise and was a thief for sure. And then taken me to the ground and beat me up, that's their job basically.

Thanks Jessica of Farmacias Manríquez!

So phones? Not always a big help.

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