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One that actually works properly and doesn’t sound like ass is revolutionary. That’s where apple win.
I feel it's a "good product" not a "revolutionary" one
That’s all I want
How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
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Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
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Keep in mind this attitude makes total sense to hardware engineers. The hardware business is... Let's just say that the difficulties you face definitely exist for hardware engineers. But, difficulties involving negotiations plus recalcitrant South Korean factory owners are WORSE. In "South Korean factory owner negotiations," secrecy is paramount. Particularly if said South Korean factory owner is the biggest supplier…
How much of an advantage are you really getting here? The first day they are sold samsung has the airpod torn apart and rendered on a computer screen with all specs known. There are no big secrets here, these aren't warheads. It didn't take long for the gas stations around me to start selling knock off airpods along side the knock off lightning cables. If you get it early vs not, its not going to make a big differenc…
It’s not about preventing knockoffs, apple is not built on first mover advantage.
It’s about protecting price on contracts for supplies that are locked in well before launch. When AirPods launch apple has contracts lined up already for production of many thousands of them if not millions.
Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
#143I worked at Apple relatively briefly, in a lead role on an Important Project that required its own form to be disclosed on it (besides the general agreement you sign to begin employment). A truly toxic work environment that I couldn't get out of fast enough once I shipped the project. All kinds of projects at Apple have their own disclosure forms, and you are only given one to sign if it's deemed necessary to your wo…
It's ironic when they talk about "office collaboration" and "bumping into colleagues" but in reality you can't even talk about what you're doing to most (internal) people
I take that to mean that “office collaboration” is letting people know what they need to know “off the record” and you don’t want any chat logs showing it.
Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
#144I worked at Apple relatively briefly, in a lead role on an Important Project that required its own form to be disclosed on it (besides the general agreement you sign to begin employment). A truly toxic work environment that I couldn't get out of fast enough once I shipped the project. All kinds of projects at Apple have their own disclosure forms, and you are only given one to sign if it's deemed necessary to your wo…
Apple seems to have a very strange way of doing things when it comes to secrecy.
When I was working for the defense industry, we would just vet people more extensively than needed to give us some margins and while things were on a need to know basis, you would never have been impaired on requirements like that, it’s just too costly.
You have be very rich to be that inefficient.
Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
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> Apple's CEO, COO and "head of services" all have degrees from Duke University Why do you mention this? Duke awards thousands of degrees every year. It's a highly ranked university, but the number of people in the world with degrees from highly ranked universities is massive. It's not rare.
The chances of the top three (four?) executives at any given giant multinational company all holding degrees from the same institution is pretty small. I don’t think there is an intent to malign Duke, but it is noteworthy.
> The chances of the top three (four?) executives at any given giant multinational company all holding degrees from the same institution is pretty small.
Not really. Colleges are social networks. Alumni favor each other. Facebook and Google were both founded at colleges.
> I don’t think there is an intent to malign Duke
I read it the opposite way, as attempting to say that having degrees from Duke somehow makes Apple leadership uniquely capable: "all have degrees from Duke University and 30 year careers in supply chain management".
> but it is noteworthy.
It's some interesting trivia. But it's not clear why it's noteworthy in the context of the discussion of secrecy at Apple.
Tim Cook got an MBA at Duke, Jeff Williams got an MBA at Duke. Tim Cook was at IBM, Jeff Williams was at IBM. Tim Cook joined Apple in operations, Jeff Williams joined Apple in operations. Do you think those are all just random chance coincidences?
Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
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Apple Watch, Apple Pencil, AirTag, AirPods...
They made a pencil? Huh. And I guess stalkers quickly embraced the AirTag.
Apple Pencil = Apple Drawing Stylus, with Tilt, Pressure, and Interesting Choices About Friction And Power Management. I’m an artist and more and more of my fellow artists are using Procreate or Clip Studio on an iPad as their main tool for serious work now that there’s a decent stylus.
Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
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Time to lift your head out of the sand then. Macbook Pro now comes in 32GB RAM flavors, with fn keys instead of the touch bar, and zsh by default
Zsh isn't Bash. And Bash version compatibility is important when 75% of your team develop on Linux, but the other 25% on Mac. I mean, I use Fish, but when I'm writing shell scripts for others, it's Bash, because it's a common default. But now I'm limited to Bash 3. But I'm glad that they got rid of that stupid bar, and let you get a laptop with 32G of RAM now. So kind of Apple!
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Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
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Time to lift your head out of the sand then. Macbook Pro now comes in 32GB RAM flavors, with fn keys instead of the touch bar, and zsh by default
Zsh isn't Bash. And Bash version compatibility is important when 75% of your team develop on Linux, but the other 25% on Mac. I mean, I use Fish, but when I'm writing shell scripts for others, it's Bash, because it's a common default. But now I'm limited to Bash 3. But I'm glad that they got rid of that stupid bar, and let you get a laptop with 32G of RAM now. So kind of Apple!
Your bash scripts won't work on Windows, either. If we are here talking about bash being a "common default" maybe we shouldn't leave out the operating system that has about a 90% global marketshare.
If your development team doesn't have the time and resources to support a multi-platform development environment, they shouldn't do so.
Apple didn't change their business model, the GPL changed their license, and it's a license that's simply not compatible with any closed-source software business. Does your employer let you integrate GPL v3 code into your products?
Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
#149I worked at Apple relatively briefly, in a lead role on an Important Project that required its own form to be disclosed on it (besides the general agreement you sign to begin employment). A truly toxic work environment that I couldn't get out of fast enough once I shipped the project. All kinds of projects at Apple have their own disclosure forms, and you are only given one to sign if it's deemed necessary to your wo…
Keep in mind this attitude makes total sense to hardware engineers. The hardware business is... Let's just say that the difficulties you face definitely exist for hardware engineers. But, difficulties involving negotiations plus recalcitrant South Korean factory owners are WORSE. In "South Korean factory owner negotiations," secrecy is paramount. Particularly if said South Korean factory owner is the biggest supplier…
> The software is only good because Mac fans join the company and slave hard enough to make it that way.
What does this even mean? This could easily just say "they have good software because the workers care about what they are making"
Re: How Apple overcame its culture of secrecy to create AirPods Pro
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' I have a habit of thinking from the perspective of corporate titans.' Thats sounds a bit presumtious, have you ever validated how accurate that perspective is? Maybe the perspective you imagine is totally different from reality.
Well I don't think I'm right haha. I haven't met these people and asked them exactly what they were thinking. But I honestly think we're very biased towards assuming our senior corporate leaders are foolish and misguided. Saying "assuming a corporation made a smart decision, why did xxx make that decision?" is usually a very fruitful line of thought.
> corporate leaders are foolish and misguided.
> corporation made a smart decision
The bankers who traded subprime mortgages and fucked off with their gains made an excellent decision. The corporations didn't, because they are not real, they don't make decisions.
Just because something is in the interest of a senior leader, does not mean it's in the interest of the whole company.