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The End of Industrial Society

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Re: The End of Industrial Society

#3
This is Internet Rationalism, distilled and bottled: masturbatory rediscovery (there's a reason we've been calling it "post-industrial" for the last 40 years) mixed with a healthy dose of neoreactionary handwringing ("civilizational collapse").

You can imagine my shock at discovering that Palladium is funded by Thiel[1] (non-partisan, indeed!), and that one of their founders is now working on Web3 (post-industrial, indeed!).

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29835570

Re: The End of Industrial Society

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> We can imagine a possible scenario of the collapse of our own civilization. Our ability to perceive decline would be compromised early in the process.

Social media and the Internet is the new opium of the masses. We view the world through this crappy lens and it never matches what's really going on. We think we have a clear picture, but everywhere there is chaos and decline. Klaus Schwab's 'Great Reset' proposal won't cut it. We need mobilized mass revolution and political will to get out of the various messes we are in.

Re: The End of Industrial Society

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> Not only marketers, but scientists, statesmen, industrialists, politicians, philosophers, and writers shaped ersatz social technology to fill the gaps, but completely failed to guarantee knowledge succession of the generative core of knowledge. The strange spiritual practices, scientific exploration of human psychology, and at times outright ideological cults of the founding cohort gave way to a more shallow type of knowledge. This was a knowledge of levers and buttons, rather than the first principles which built those levers and buttons.

Quite the Just-So Story. Any evidence that people used to be highly concerned with first principles and this has somehow dropped off? I won't hold my breath.

Re: The End of Industrial Society

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No idea what the deal is with this site, it seemed intriguing but found this on their articles index. Probably should read it before making any judgments but... its mothers day, who has the time?

> The Taliban Were Afghanistan’s Real Modernizers

> Only a powerful modernizing force could overcome the tribal loyalties that divided Afghanistan’s fragile state. That force was the Taliban.

Re: The End of Industrial Society

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> What, then, is the core engine of our own civilization, and in what way might it decay? While we lack an incontrovertible answer, the Industrial Revolution appears to be a leading candidate.

I find this historically shallow (or short-term). IMO, at the core of civilization is the concept of "domain" (from the old latin meaning, which is like "realm" or possibly "kingdom")

I like to recall that all the "old and obsolete industrial practices" are more fundamental than the novel and up-to-date "computer networking, artificial intelligence, and other “emerging technologies.”"

and when I say more fundamental, I mean that's it's not possible to have the later without the former.

Re: The End of Industrial Society

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> Not only marketers, but scientists, statesmen, industrialists, politicians, philosophers, and writers shaped ersatz social technology to fill the gaps, but completely failed to guarantee knowledge succession of the generative core of knowledge. The strange spiritual practices, scientific exploration of human psychology, and at times outright ideological cults of the founding cohort gave way to a more shallow type o…

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Re: The End of Industrial Society

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> These social technology cores decay with time as they obsolete their own foundations, and as errors and parasitism build up

A lot to explain there.

> Yet even in the case of Britain, the key social technologies failed after the Second World War, as the latitude afforded to aristocratic scientists and industrialists was replaced by a system of bureaucratic processes.

And there.

I found this unreadable, sorry. Lots of abstract assertions with no support offered for them.

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