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Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by egl2021 »

If companies can figure out how to use a mostly remote workforce effectively, they can hire anywhere in the world with good Internet. They would no longer need to put an office where there are plenty of qualified workers; they could hire one-at-a-time without regard to geography. And if time zones are a problem, hire north-south rather than east-west. Rio de Janeiro, for example, is only one hour later than New York City.

Over the short term there are arbitrage opportunities for tech workers moving out of high-cost and high-pay regions, but the equilibrium could be quite different.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by ekanes »

hooande wrote: post #77
zasdffaa wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm one of those misfits/troublemakers/etc. I've done my life mostly on my terms, and I've had it really tough. Conformists generally get it much easier. I'm all for more independent thought and fuck-you-ness but never forget that for most people that comes at a high price, so take off the rose-tinted specs.

here's to you, good luck in your journey. make it worth it "If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery--isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a t…

Yeah. What are we trying that we should expect to lose the most important relationships in our lives? Unsaid but heavily implied is this person would be an atrocious parent, and a very real price is paid for that.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by BurningFrog »

thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #38

Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes… the ones who see things differently — they’re not fond of rules… You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can’t do is ignore them because they change things… they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the on…

That slogan was from 1997.

A quarter century later, Apple is a very different company. As it should be.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by shagie »

ineedasername wrote: post #70

I'm trying to hire for a position right now and it has dragged on for months for two reasons: 1) WFH is now limited to 1 day per week, and a 3 month probationary period where new hires don't even get that. 2) Salary. It's still a job seeker's market and my workplace is not keeping pace. It's spec'ed for 3 years of experience but salary is about the median for a new graduate w/o professional experience. I'm happy to t…

> It's spec'ed for 3 years of experience but salary is about the median for a new graduate w/o professional experience.

How does the company's revenue per employee compare to the offered salary?

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by ensan »

iXce wrote: post #20
daniel-thompson wrote: post #14

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Can you elaborate on this.

I guess citations do not directly translate into products?

No, especially in fields that have as much citations and papers on average as ML/DL/RL.

If a paper in any other field was cited 44k in ~8 years, it must have made life-changing discoveries. Maybe some of the early papers on COVID-19 will reach that number.

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Post by tikhonj »

csande17 wrote: post #179
JW_00000 wrote: post #154

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Open question (I'm not American, so I don't get the full context): would you lose that bargaining power if a union was created at your workplace?

Say, for sake of argument, that I'm the World's Greatest Widget Engineer. I'm worth more than the average employee at my company, so I can get stuff I want by negotiating individually with my employer. On the other hand, if a union imposes some broad agreement on the company under threat of strikes, I can't convince my company to break that agreement on my own because I'm not more valuable than the entire rest of the…

Hollywood actors are part of a large union (SAG-AFTRA), but individual actors still get compensated orders of magnitude more than the average.

What particular aspect of having a union would make that substantially more difficult in tech?

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by make3 »

supernova87a wrote: post #25
daniel-thompson wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate on this.

Let's just say that is it correct that he is still known for his 2014 GAN work.

he's also known for single handedly starting the field of adversarial examples, which is a huge field. he basically started two fields. he's huge

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by worik »

bonestamp2 wrote: post #19
mmmmkay wrote: post #10

I recently left Amazon for a fully remote position and that was my sole decision making factor.

Amazon recently recruited me for a job, a job that I already do remotely for a different company, and I turned it down for the same reason. The job at amazon paid way more, but I'm far more productive and happier at home. I see other jobs at amazon that are remote, but this particular department worked with hardware that they weren't interested in leaving the office. Again, I've worked remotely with similar hardware…

It is difficult for some people to understand "The job at XYZ paid way more, but..."

IMO Enough is best.

Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work

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Post by paulcole »

egl2021 wrote: post #241

If companies can figure out how to use a mostly remote workforce effectively, they can hire anywhere in the world with good Internet. They would no longer need to put an office where there are plenty of qualified workers; they could hire one-at-a-time without regard to geography. And if time zones are a problem, hire north-south rather than east-west. Rio de Janeiro, for example, is only one hour later than New York…

> If companies can figure out how to use a mostly remote workforce effectively, they can hire anywhere in the world with good Internet.

While technically true, you’re overlooking the tax, legal, and other issues this causes. A non-hurdle for Google, but a huge one for smaller businesses.

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