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Why would I bother checking Google Maps? But basically, yeah. If Google wants my expertise and data collection ability, they can pay me for it. As it stands now they just cold call businesses and ask them with an AI thing.
What other source would you rather check?
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#32On a related note, am I right in understand that the "Google Experts" [1] do it for free? [1] https://developers.google.com/community/experts/
This is probably one of the more embarrassing and shameful parts of Google's labor ecosystem. These "Google $title Experts" work as uncompensated customer support (a legal requirement that they treat as such, if the quality is any indicator) on various social media outlets like Reddit and Twitter. They don't just provide free labor, they also go to bat for Google's reputation, acting as marketing and PR liaisons to p…
This is so true. When I try to find a fix for some broken behavior in a major Google app the most common place I end up is a support forum with zero solution, no comment from any Google employee, and a volunteer support person saying how the defect isn't actually a problem but that you should submit feedback within the app.
These volunteers can't be helping at this point. Google's disdain for users is pretty widely recognized by now and seeing a whole bunch of frustrated users being blown off yet again doesn't help.
Re: 'Rater' is paid $10 hourly to teach Google's algorithm
#33Dumb question - why can't I just upvote and downvote pages, and Google enhances its ranking for me based on that? Maybe that's why the search "X reddit" is so popular - it's got a bit of that social validation.
1. Do you click on the link in the results page?
2. After clicking on that link, do you go back to the search or not?
3. How long do you stay there before coming back?
Adding an explicit up/downvote would capture some additional information, but it would overlap with the above, and most users would ignore the button. I’d guess Google has at some point experimented with this and found it wasn’t worth keeping.
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#34Another prime example of how ML and AI aren't mature. With all the data google collects, they have to rely on minimum wagers to "find" the best results.
There is nothing wrong with semi-supervised learning.
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#35Dumb question - why can't I just upvote and downvote pages, and Google enhances its ranking for me based on that? Maybe that's why the search "X reddit" is so popular - it's got a bit of that social validation.
Google already has similar signals: 1. Do you click on the link in the results page? 2. After clicking on that link, do you go back to the search or not? 3. How long do you stay there before coming back? Adding an explicit up/downvote would capture some additional information, but it would overlap with the above, and most users would ignore the button. I’d guess Google has at some point experimented with this and fou…
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Who do you reckon would cast the most votes? Correct, SEO bots.
If Google can't use it's vast array of user data to tell the difference between SEO bots and non-bot users, what's even the point of it collecting all that fucking data in the first place?
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Who do you reckon would cast the most votes? Correct, SEO bots.
If Google can't use it's vast array of user data to tell the difference between SEO bots and non-bot users, what's even the point of it collecting all that fucking data in the first place?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would I bother checking Google Maps? But basically, yeah. If Google wants my expertise and data collection ability, they can pay me for it. As it stands now they just cold call businesses and ask them with an AI thing.
What other source would you rather check?
Re: 'Rater' is paid $10 hourly to teach Google's algorithm
#39Dumb question - why can't I just upvote and downvote pages, and Google enhances its ranking for me based on that? Maybe that's why the search "X reddit" is so popular - it's got a bit of that social validation.
Google already has similar signals: 1. Do you click on the link in the results page? 2. After clicking on that link, do you go back to the search or not? 3. How long do you stay there before coming back? Adding an explicit up/downvote would capture some additional information, but it would overlap with the above, and most users would ignore the button. I’d guess Google has at some point experimented with this and fou…
Sounds pretty ripe for abuse too.
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What other source would you rather check?
OpenStreetMap?
The thing is that business owners do update the info on Google Maps, and have an incentive to do so, but only volunteers update OSM.
OSM shines where businesses don't care but volunteers do: trails in a park, non-commercial POIs, etc.