Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by ben_hall » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 9:59 AM UTC

Work has started on Ruby 2.0
github.com

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

#2

Post by terhechte » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 10:57 AM UTC

Let's hope it will gain more acceptance and usage than Python3. Do they intend major changes?

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by pdelgallego » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 11:14 AM UTC

terhechte wrote: post #2

Let's hope it will gain more acceptance and usage than Python3. Do they intend major changes?

For good or bad, the ruby community tends to embrace changes faster than the Python community. For example Rails is going to drop 1.8.7 support in the next release 3.2

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by plq » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 11:15 AM UTC

That sounds nice but, what's the plan? The closest I could find was this: http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/projects/ruby-20/roadmap

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by pdelgallego » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 11:16 AM UTC

If you are interested about what directions ruby will take in the future you can read this thread in the ruby core mailing list.

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-core/...

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by mjbellantoni » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 11:49 AM UTC

pdelgallego wrote: post #5

If you are interested about what directions ruby will take in the future you can read this thread in the ruby core mailing list. http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-core/...

I wish overall performance was on that list!

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by jkjeldgaard » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 11:50 AM UTC

I can highly recommend Matz talk from RubyConf 2011, where he talks about the future of Ruby.

http://confreaks.net/videos/654-rubyconf2011-keynote-ruby-ev...

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by lloeki » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 12:22 PM UTC

pdelgallego wrote: post #3

terhechte wrote: post #2

Let's hope it will gain more acceptance and usage than Python3. Do they intend major changes?

For good or bad, the ruby community tends to embrace changes faster than the Python community. For example Rails is going to drop 1.8.7 support in the next release 3.2

From personal experience the community at large is eager to move to Python 3. It has more to do with tremendous inertia generated by critical components being tricky to port to Python 3. Usual suspects Django and Twisted come to mind. IIRC NumPy gained support only recently.

The Wall of Shame gives a very partial overview of the situation: http://python3wos.appspot.com/

It does not help that useful stuff from 3.x get backported to 2.x or available via __future__, and that IMHO Python 2.7 is awesome so the urge is not quite there (well, not as much as working with Ruby 1.8 when you tasted 1.9)

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by compay » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 12:29 PM UTC

A lot of folks in the Ruby community were hopeful that Rubinius would replace MRI to become Ruby 2.0. Looks like that's going to have to wait a little longer now.

Re: Work has started on Ruby 2.0

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Post by petercooper » Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 12:30 PM UTC

terhechte wrote: post #2

Let's hope it will gain more acceptance and usage than Python3. Do they intend major changes?

Not a direct answer to the question but Ruby 2.0 is expected to be backwards compatible with the current production release, 1.9.2, while just adding extra features. I'm not particularly well versed in Python 3 but I believe it wasn't intended to be backwards compatible.