Heroku: We’ve Heard Your Feedback

Post by hthrowaway3 » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:44 PM UTC

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> 2. Customers sign up at "heroku.com", the platform is called "Heroku", the CLI is "heroku", everything's heroku, so don't send emails from a parent company (Salesforce), send them from "Heroku". They're working on something called "Project Periwinkle" that is intended to remove all Heroku branding and make everything Salesforce branded. Periwinkle being a colour between blue (salesforce) and purple (heroku). No mor…

> New features have been banned for years. Only "keep the lights on" projects are allowed. That's what it's looked like from the outside -- that no features were for whatever reason(s) no longer going to happen. But still dismaying to hear it from the inside in those terms.

Post by ryantgtg » Sat, May 07, 2022, 4:11 PM UTC

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I was a long time Heroku user/lover (~10 years) for both personal and company projects. I've recently moved to Render[1], and so far it's been great. I haven't been using them long enough to put it through it's paces, but I'd certainly say it's worth a look. Other alternatives I've heard good things about are Fly.io[2] and Porter[3]. [1] - https://render.com/ [2] - https://fly.io/ [3] - https://porter.run/

Checked out render.com in the context of side projects that I want on the air but don't expect anyone to ever use (I have so many on heroku, who got rewarded for their generosity with many thousands of dollars of business from me), which means I'm willing to pay a few dollars but not to pay per-app. Looks great except that they delete your free databases after 90 days, making it completely useless for this use case.…

Post by heartbreak » Sat, May 07, 2022, 5:19 PM UTC

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Update: Migrating the simplest possible Rails app from free-tier to free-tier didn't work on Render (deploys fail, no logs to be found), so I'm bailing out to try Fly. To any render people reading this, it appears to have been an issue with the migration plugin and the Heroku-18 stack. Manually deploying the app worked fine.

Thanks for the heads up and good to hear you were able to deploy the app manually. We might deprecate the migrator because it's hard to keep up with all the Heroku stack and buildpack configs and because manual migrations are relatively straightforward.

Post by anurag » Sat, May 07, 2022, 5:57 PM UTC

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Thanks for the heads up and good to hear you were able to deploy the app manually. We might deprecate the migrator because it's hard to keep up with all the Heroku stack and buildpack configs and because manual migrations are relatively straightforward.

Completely understandable. I’ve been configuring stuff with Render all morning and I’m really starting to like this service. Is there a way to assign an existing Env Group when manually creating a new service? So far I've needed to create and then go back in and assign.

Post by jolux » Sat, May 07, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

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You have to make sure the attackers aren’t still in your network, you have to get them out if they are, you have to fully scope out what they messed with, and restore anything that’s plausibly connected. Even in the best case with all the right monitoring systems in place there is a lot of manual work involved from owners of the various different effected services and just managing the overall response adequately. I…

Wouldn’t you hire an incident response team who are experts in figuring this stuff out?