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Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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I’m sure these services exist in every country. I don’t see the problem if they’re opt-in.

I'm not aware of any such services in the Czech Republic, for example, opt-in or not.

Neither in the Netherlands. Some piracy websites (e.g. The Pirate Bay) are blocked by court order (with no opt-out), but definitely not archive.org.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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Text messages exist

Yeah and now your kid is the weird one with the green messages who isn’t invited to the group chats.

Teach your kids it's okay to be to take another path; it's literally the only way to achieve more.

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Yeah and now your kid is the weird one with the green messages who isn’t invited to the group chats.

Teach your kids it's okay to be to take another path; it's literally the only way to achieve more.

It’s not okay though. It just makes people unhappy for no good reason.

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To be clear, this is an adult content block, not a copyright thing. "Even" Reddit (which, to be fair, does include actual porn) is blocked on at least some networks unless you unlock the account.

Reddit achieves much the same effect by constantly insisting that I install the app (I never will).

Yep, in the last few days it’s become fully unusable. Niche forums are now walled with:

> Unreviewed Content — This community has not been reviewed and might contain content inappropriate for certain viewers. View in the Reddit app to continue.

My ISP doesn’t block Reddit, but Reddit has effectively blocked me.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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It's enabled by default, actually, but otherwise about right. https://www.blocked.org.uk/ is a useful resource on this front.

Unsure about "enabled by default". I don't think I've ever been offered (explicitly) a parental for my home ISP (not EE) that I opted out of. Archive.org isnt blocked on my home internet. Archive.org is also available on my EE phone (when using mobile connection) - it's possibly I explicitly opted out of parental control filter, but I don't think I have. I'm less sure about that.

EE's Content Lock is enabled by default, and is called out in the article itself. To opt out of Content Lock, you must undergo age verification, either via ID checks in person at the store, or via a credit card.

Please note: All new and existing accounts with Content Lock enabled have the "Moderate" setting applied by default. [1]

[1]: https://myaccount.ee.co.uk/app/anonymous-content-lock

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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At this point, overlay networks like Tor, yggdrasil, and CJDNS need to be normalized and preinstalled on every smartphone and PC.

I believe Brave uses Tor for their incognito mode on desktops so we're already seeing some advancements on that front. Unfortunately, brave are still unable to provide tor for their users on android.

For overlay networks to be normalized, popular browser makers have to include them in their mobile versions. For better or worse, android and ios are what most normal people use these days.

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Reddit achieves much the same effect by constantly insisting that I install the app (I never will).

Yep, in the last few days it’s become fully unusable. Niche forums are now walled with: > Unreviewed Content — This community has not been reviewed and might contain content inappropriate for certain viewers. View in the Reddit app to continue. My ISP doesn’t block Reddit, but Reddit has effectively blocked me.

Enabling desktop mode usually fixes this for me. I think changing the domain to old.reddit.com also works.

But yeah, reddit is really shooting itself in the foot with this nonsense.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

weird they are blaming the UK for this also, it's one company with a particular product offering.

It actually does make sense to blame the UK for this. UK law (Digital Economy Act 2017) says that ISPs are legally required to offer content filtering to their customers, turned on by default, although customers are allowed to request to opt out of it. So, this ISP is legally required to impose content filters unless a customer specifically asks them not to do so.

Now, you can say the real issue here is not the filtering itself, but the decision to include this particular website in the list of sites to be blocked. But the reality is, filtering decisions are inherently subjective, mistakes are inevitable, so I really think if someone ought to be blamed, it is not the company legally forced to do the filtering, but rather the law which forces them to do it. Also, the company wants to spend as little money on the filtering as possible, since it is a pure cost centre – and if customers don't like it, they can opt out, and then either have unfiltered Internet, or filter it themselves – meaning there is no incentive for the company to do a good job of choosing which sites to include

I'm a parent (of a 9 year old and a 4 year old), and I think it is totally good parenting to seek to limit your children's access to online material they are too young to process. But I think the right answer is a free market of parent control solutions (both commercial and open source), with parents being able to choose the solution which works best for their family – not government-imposed network-level filtering, even if it is an opt-out. Parental control is best done at the endpoints, not in the network.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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EU blocked rt.com. I'm no fan of russian aggresssion, yet don't want my internet access censored.

Can you share more info on that? I only saw reports of their broadcast permissions revoked, not the website.

ISPs have been mandated to block Russia state media. For me the site is unreachable. One swedish ISP refuses to comply due to them being anti-censorship activists.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/02/eu-rt-sputnik-ban-live/

I wish there was more reporting on this.

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