Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

Post by c54 » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:20 AM UTC

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #234

Traster wrote: post #60

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Just from a management perspective, even if you're super-confident in your engineers (which you shouldn't be), doing anything other than a very limited slow roll out would be negligent. This is a tectonic shift in liability. It's one thing if you sell 1,000,000 cars and 100,000 get in an accident. It's actually much worse to sell 10,000 cars and 1,000 of them get in an accident and the company is liable .

'This is a tectonic shift in liability. ' Its the only form of liability i consider acceptable - I woupd never use autopilot where I would be to blame if i fail to react in 50 milliseconds once the car fucks up

Post by fastball » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:27 AM UTC

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #191

ksubedi wrote: post #73

What most people here complaining about the "40 mph" limit do not realize is that below 40mph is where it's hardest to implement proper self driving, as majority of below 40mph driving will be in city streets with pedestrians, frequent turns and more variables. Anything higher will generally be in highways where lane assist cruise control systems are already more than good enough. I will gladly take a system that can…

> as majority of below 40mph driving will be in city streets with pedestrians, frequent turns and more variables What this article fails to mention, but other articles on this system mentioned in the past, is that this system can be enabled only on designsted highway streteches. So no city driving. Here: https://group.mercedes-benz.com/documents/innovation/other/2... , page 18, Operational Design Domain.

Post by HWR_14 » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:30 AM UTC

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #244

I_DRINK_KOOLAID wrote: post #84

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> This decision tells us nothing about the safety of the Mercedes system compared to its competitors Mercedes is just taking notice that grandstanding and PR worked for Tesla, so they are doing the same thing. Everybody who is serious about this knows that unless you get Level 5 it's all just grandstanding. Level 5 won't come from unleashing Level 3 into the world and throwing deers , cyclists and pedestrians at it (…

Bigger cars? Have you seen the new pickups, what do you want to drive, a tank? Also bigger cars kill more pedestrians

Post by fastball » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:30 AM UTC

henrikschroder wrote: post #6

Meanwhile at Tesla: "We're the industry leaders, wait for us!"

Post by zip1234 » Sat, May 07, 2022, 2:40 AM UTC

sib wrote: post #230

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Perhaps because 65 has exponentially more energy in collisions and more likely to cause death? If it is limited to 40, death is less likely and therefore chance of negative news. So I would venture just a risk calculation for initial release.

Literally 164% more energy - not exponentially.