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Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by ugh »

beej71 wrote: post #81
ugh wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not a silly thing if I truly care about it. Lag drives me crazy. I hardly ever need more than a few minutes before I want to throw an Android device at the wall. This reason is personal. Others don’t care about it. That’s certainly true. But I do. Why am I not allowed to bring this up? Why is that silly?

I just used a Samsung Galaxy S II... didn't notice any lag. But then again, my phone is an iPhone 3G.

That’s good to hear! I test any Android device I can get my fingers on but I have not yet had an opportunity to test the Galaxy S II. (The stores I was in never had a charged one.)

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by chugger »

Kylekramer wrote: post #77
flyosity wrote: post #16

From the review at This Is My Next: "The subtle, pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since its inception is still there." You have got to be kidding me. How is it that Android still doesn't map a user's finger movements with nearly 1:1 accuracy on the screen? Pinch, zoom and flick response times on the iPhone have been superior to Android for years, even with significantly less powerful hardware (comp…

Of course, that is one data point. Gizmodo says "certainly responsive" ( http://gizmodo.com/5851133/samsung-galaxy-nexus-the-greatest... ). Engadget says "startlingly fast" and "faster than its ever been" ( http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/samsung-galaxy-nexus-hand... ). Personally I just think it is clear that Android has gone well beyond the limits of caring (not perception) for the vast majority of users. There…

Fast and responsive on this hardware, sure. But what about the other less powerful, free, bogo Android phones out there? Will your carrier-crippled Android phone be able to even upgrade to ICS?

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by anigbrowl »

psychotik wrote: post #84
anigbrowl wrote: post #72

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I thought Google's solution was to move past that and have ICS run on everything, degrading higher-end functionality gracefully within the OS if it finds itself running on less capable hardware.

This isn't about hardware, it's about software. Confused?

Yes. 4.0 is meant to run on all Android devices, so why would you be abandoning your users if you start developing for it?

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by chugger »

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #58
flyosity wrote: post #16

From the review at This Is My Next: "The subtle, pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since its inception is still there." You have got to be kidding me. How is it that Android still doesn't map a user's finger movements with nearly 1:1 accuracy on the screen? Pinch, zoom and flick response times on the iPhone have been superior to Android for years, even with significantly less powerful hardware (comp…

>Imagine if your mouse cursor couldn't keep up with your hand movements, or if >letters didn't appear on the screen until a moment after you pressed your keyboard. Even in my imagination, Android installed base is still growing at nearly 2X of that of the iPhone. Apparently, most people don't care for whatever you're saying they should care about. I have experienced the lag you mention, but I have a big, lovely scree…

Android is growing fast because its on every crappy free/buy one get one smartphones that are basically used as a glorified feature phone, NOT because its good.

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by CountSessine »

jarek wrote: post #74
gfodor wrote: post #73

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Poor responsiveness for a touch screen interface on such a late generation device is an embarassment especially when you look at the features that have garnered focus.

So I understand "poor responsiveness" in 2011 is on your list of corners. What else is? What was on that list in 2009?

Do you know what wasn't on my list of corners for 2011? Unlocking my phone with my face.

"Poor responsiveness"? Yes, that's on my list. 2011, and 2009 back when my 3GS made every Android phone on the market look like it was running through treacle.

The gap has narrowed, but it's still embarrassing that so much computing power has been thrown at this, but still it feels like Android just can't keep up with my finger movements. Coming from iOS, this is a really big UX issue. List and scroll views on iOS feel like they're glued to your fingers. On android they don't, and it makes the whole UI feel 'slippery' - like you don't have a decent grip on UI objects.

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by eizooo »

flyosity wrote: post #16

From the review at This Is My Next: "The subtle, pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since its inception is still there." You have got to be kidding me. How is it that Android still doesn't map a user's finger movements with nearly 1:1 accuracy on the screen? Pinch, zoom and flick response times on the iPhone have been superior to Android for years, even with significantly less powerful hardware (comp…

good point but after a while you get used to it ...

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by chugger »

jarek wrote: post #74
gfodor wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poor responsiveness for a touch screen interface on such a late generation device is an embarassment especially when you look at the features that have garnered focus.

So I understand "poor responsiveness" in 2011 is on your list of corners. What else is? What was on that list in 2009?

How about:

No crashing No virus/malware/spyware Less Crappy apps Better user interface Better battery life

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by bgarbiak »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #30
thought_alarm wrote: post #28

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> Imagine if your mouse cursor couldn't keep up with > your hand movements That's why I gave up on using X11 and Linux back in 2001.

.... what?

Linux has (had?) this annoying little "feature" of minimal input lag. Unnoticable at first, becomes a deal breaker after a while (especially if you work on Windows machine in the meantime).

Same story: Firefox, or even Chrome - when compared to Opera. Opera has it's weak points, but it's interface interaction is amazingly snappy. Actually, it's quite amazing how big difference these tiny things can make.

Re: Google, Samsung unveil Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Galaxy Nexus

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Post by sdfgwergsd »

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #58
flyosity wrote: post #16

From the review at This Is My Next: "The subtle, pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since its inception is still there." You have got to be kidding me. How is it that Android still doesn't map a user's finger movements with nearly 1:1 accuracy on the screen? Pinch, zoom and flick response times on the iPhone have been superior to Android for years, even with significantly less powerful hardware (comp…

>Imagine if your mouse cursor couldn't keep up with your hand movements, or if >letters didn't appear on the screen until a moment after you pressed your keyboard. Even in my imagination, Android installed base is still growing at nearly 2X of that of the iPhone. Apparently, most people don't care for whatever you're saying they should care about. I have experienced the lag you mention, but I have a big, lovely scree…

Install base is an interesting thing.

Android is the new Feature Phone, in some ways. Just because someone buys a cheap Android clone doesn't mean they embrace the features in the way that nearly every iPhone user does.

Google need to work exceptionally hard, else I figure even Microsoft will catch up.

Android is very inconsistent.

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