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Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#31

To be clear, this is an adult content block, not a copyright thing. "Even" Reddit (which, to be fair, does include actual porn) is blocked on at least some networks unless you unlock the account.

Reddit achieves much the same effect by constantly insisting that I install the app (I never will).

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#32

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

Kids just shouldn't have phones with data plans.

Why not?

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#33

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

Kids just shouldn't have phones with data plans.

What phones don’t have data plans? Also that’s going to mean they can’t use useful stuff like iMessage.

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#34
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This is not really new. Iirc the requirement agreed with the government was that users would have an active choice for filtering or not, which I think is required for mobile connections. This is an age gated thing essentially, and can be removed at the request of the user (or never added). Age rated things require some ID I think. That archive.org, a place to archive essentially any content , gets flagged as potentia…

If the bar for censorship is adult content are sites like facebook and twitter blocked by default in the UK too?

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#36
This specific sort of filter has been in place in the UK since 2004. It's part of the "Mobile Broadband Group"'s code of practice – the joint industry association representing the large UK mobile networks. The principle in general was that mobile broadband operators would enable an "adult content filter" by default on their products, with the ability for users to disable it on providing proof of age. I think it's basically a DNS block, though the implementation might vary between operators.

If I remember the details right, I'm pretty sure this was a compromise solution – basically one of those situations where the industry generally agrees to self-regulate in exchange for avoiding more formal state regulation on their services.

It's a bit silly generally, particularly when stuff like archive.org gets added to the list when it really shouldn't be.

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I’m just sad to watch the world following Turkey’s steps on Internet control. These ISP level “security filters” have been a thing in Turkey since 2011. They are optional but they always try to trick people into enabling them. There’s even safe internet day(5th February), they send you an SMS with a link to instantly enable filters to celebrate internet safety day. What I find weird though, not all sites are blocked…

I’m sure these services exist in every country. I don’t see the problem if they’re opt-in.

In this case they are opt-out, so there is a problem.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#38

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

Kids just shouldn't have phones with data plans.

This is true to some extent, but not in a simple and categorical way.

We should really think more about how we want our kids to grow and discover the (online) world, and sheltering them from everything controversial or have their parents dictate every content they can and cannot access until they’re 18, doesn’t look like an actual viable option to me.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#39

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

the fact that it is opt-out rather than opt-in makes it much more than a "nothing burger" IMHO.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#40
post #30

archive.org blocked by EE yawn EE is a mobile operator and not very important in the grand scheme of things when it comes to decisions about morality. They obviously also have dropped the ball - silly ISP.

If only 1% of citizens are denied their fundamental rights, is that not very important?
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