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HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by nicce »

nobody9999 wrote: post #3

While I like the idea, AFAICT there's no actual web interface, only access through iPhone/Android apps. Which is a deal-breaker for me. That said, is anyone here actually using HalloApp? If so, what are your impressions so far?

Yep, if you want to go with privacy first, then make web interface and let us believe that you at least try to make it privacy friendly by allowing more user control and strict sandboxing.

There are anti-patterns in many websites to make people to use native apps - simply because it is easier to collect more user data.

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by vmception »

nobody9999 wrote: post #3

While I like the idea, AFAICT there's no actual web interface, only access through iPhone/Android apps. Which is a deal-breaker for me. That said, is anyone here actually using HalloApp? If so, what are your impressions so far?

Thats because its mobile-first! Like 2016! The founders and their stakeholders all agreed, trendy! Like in 2016!

Like Yo! But Hello, but spelled the German way Hallo! and because there already is a social network (and mobile app) called Hello, and other communications apps called Hello, and its also cool to mispell startup names, a web 2.0 staple, like last decade!

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by browningstreet »

nobody9999 wrote: post #3

While I like the idea, AFAICT there's no actual web interface, only access through iPhone/Android apps. Which is a deal-breaker for me. That said, is anyone here actually using HalloApp? If so, what are your impressions so far?

I use it to share certain activity photos with a small group who aren't on Insta/F (like me). For that, it's great. No expectation that it'll be around forever -- it's just real time photos of us on vacation in a way that doesn't bombard Messages.

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by zem »

rzzzt wrote: post #6
ladon86 wrote: post #5

Tip: it's not an official grammar rule, but in colloquial terms, scare quotes [1] are often used to indicate that the speaker is being sarcastic or that the quoted thing isn't actually true. So a typical American reader might infer from your title that this app is not _really_ "private" or "free". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

BBC news articles are full of scare quotes then.

the bbc usage is scare-quote-adjacent, they mean "this is not us saying this, it is someone else who said it and we are reporting it verbatim" (implied: we make no claims as to its accuracy)

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by sjmm1989 »

ladon86 wrote: post #5

Tip: it's not an official grammar rule, but in colloquial terms, scare quotes [1] are often used to indicate that the speaker is being sarcastic or that the quoted thing isn't actually true. So a typical American reader might infer from your title that this app is not _really_ "private" or "free". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

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Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by nicce »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #10

Just took a look at the landing page, but I didn't see any information on how they expect to monetize the app. Are they going to charge for it? I'm fine if they are charging it, but all the problems with social media are pretty much a direct result of their business model. So putting out something that is free, without an explanation of how they eventually expect to pay for it all, is not something I would trust.

Based on this [1] article, seems like they add subscription later. I have also seen some mentions about paid features, so maybe subscription unlocks them.

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/19/22584551/halloapp-private...

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by pessimizer »

rzzzt wrote: post #6
ladon86 wrote: post #5

Tip: it's not an official grammar rule, but in colloquial terms, scare quotes [1] are often used to indicate that the speaker is being sarcastic or that the quoted thing isn't actually true. So a typical American reader might infer from your title that this app is not _really_ "private" or "free". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

BBC news articles are full of scare quotes then.

In the headlines. The journalistic use of scare quotes around single words in headlines is so they can trumpet claims without taking legal responsibility for them.

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by cylon13 »

sjmm1989 wrote: post #15
ladon86 wrote: post #5

Tip: it's not an official grammar rule, but in colloquial terms, scare quotes [1] are often used to indicate that the speaker is being sarcastic or that the quoted thing isn't actually true. So a typical American reader might infer from your title that this app is not _really_ "private" or "free". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

Quoted post unavailable.

Language is dynamic and flowing and changing, and it's going to be whatever it is no matter how angry it makes you. Better to go with the flow than to scream into the wind. Is "fuckwits" proper English? Who cares?

Re: HalloApp: a digital space for people who you know and want to connect with

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Post by egberts1 »

Just let me stop you right there as I reiterate what Apple App Store has to say about HalloApp and its privacy:

    Data Linked to You
The following data, which may be collected and linked to your identity, may be used for the following purposes:

* Contact Info

Phone number (your most prized privacy info). This is a FULL-STOP right there in these days and ages.

* Contacts

Contacts (your entire address book, who would want to pull down the proverbial pants and leave their derrière exposed and tangle with the wind?)

* Identifiers

User ID (probably your Apple ID, after sufficient reverse mapping).

* Diagnostic

Crash data, not hard to get even more relational mapping from this.

############# # Signal

Compare that to SignalApp:

* Contact Info

That is entire optional and can be left blank within the Settings->Contacts->My Card of which that should always be blank.

Nothing to see there, move along.

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