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Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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Re: Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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I know exactly why I do it and it feels impossible to stop. I scroll endlessly to avoid the pain of everything else in life. Doing work, doing chores, doing hobbies, talking to anyone, making decisions even about projects I'm excited to work on, it all causes a small hit of emotional pain. I don't really know where this pain comes from either. Maybe some childhood trauma that I can't even remember? I don't know. The…

From a philosophical perspective that Wikipedia article covers a lot. I truly want to do A, but I do B instead. How is that possible?

The Wikipedia article offers a couple of classical and modern takes on the problem but I'd offer one more. That we misunderstand our own intentions. When I say “I’d like learn to speak Italian” that’s not what I mean at all. What I mean is “I’d like to be able to speak Italian.” and I haven’t even considered the work involved.

Re: Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the sociologists of the future are going to look back at this era and cite the manifest lack of meaning in human life as source of the ennui that is the subject of this thread. For a long time, religion filled this void, but for almost everyone, it no longer does. I don't even think most people who hold themselves out as religious really find any significant meaning there -- not doubting their sincerity, on…

> For a long time, religion filled this void, but for almost everyone, it no longer does. Did religion actually fill this void? Or did enough people simply go through life not voicing any of their troubles for fear of exclusion or even institutionalization in a religious and highly superstitious society that didn't understand mental health? Religion didn't prevent alcoholism, out of wedlock pregnancies or domestic vi…

No. I think you misunderstand.

When you tell people there is nothing transcendent, that life is indeed meaningless - sometimes they believe you.

Re: Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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My completely unprofessional opinion is that almost everyone that uses the internet throughout the day has developed some form of undiagnosed ADD/ADHD. The modern internet has broken our slowly evolved brains. We are not built to cope with these types of attention destroying activities and media. At least 20 years ago you had to sit down at a specific place and use a chunky computer. Smartphones have made it 1000x wo…

ADHD is a developmental condition which is highly genetic and relates to neurotransmitter brain chemistry (Dopamine / Norepinephrine). People with ADHD have it their whole life, it's not something you can develop in adulthood. However, people can be (commonly are) diagnosed in adulthood, especially for the inattentive subtype which has less outward symptoms.

What can change or develop over time is the life circumstances that a person with ADHD finds themselves in. Circumstance can make the difference between ADHD being a disorder with significant impairments vs a joyful and creative existence.

Situations which demand executive function, like putting down that mobile phone or closing youtube in favor of doing something more productive are much harder for people with ADHD. The market built by the tech industry to transact human attention for profit certainly hasn't helped here.

Here's a good brief overview of ADHD: https://www.adhdbitesize.com/post/understand-what-adhd-is-re...

Or a bite-size youtube version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMWtGozn5jU

An online ADHD test which is relatable and seems fairly accurate: https://totallyadd.com/do-i-have-add/

Re: Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How?

https://www.ndtv.com/health/top-10-reasons-why-you-should-no...

This is a very low effort, unsourced listicle, that is probably wrong on several points. Disregarding that, I was more curious about how this particular person managed to get hospitalized.

Re: Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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Because we humans have a lot of idle time. We feel like we're wasting it, and we feel we should instead spend time archiving goals, to better ourselves, to do something more meaningful. But that is not how life works. You are just unnecessarily burden yourself with guilt. Thinking you should be doing something else. There are so many things to learn about, so many things to experience, right? We fear on missing out o…

>Watch some livestreams of lions on youtube, what do they do? 99% of the time they just sit under a tree doing absolutely nothing, and I bet they don't feel guilty about it Lions are at peace with the world. They sit around with clear minds, watching nature go by. They are content with the world and their place within it. This is absolutely not the same as a human who spends 4 hours a day doomscrolling through twitte…

> Lions are at peace with the world. They sit around with clear minds, watching nature go by. They are content with the world and their place within it.

Maybe for an adult lion at the peak of its powers. An elderly lion will end his days alone, cast out from the pack, surviving on its fading wits until....

Re: Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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My completely unprofessional opinion is that almost everyone that uses the internet throughout the day has developed some form of undiagnosed ADD/ADHD. The modern internet has broken our slowly evolved brains. We are not built to cope with these types of attention destroying activities and media. At least 20 years ago you had to sit down at a specific place and use a chunky computer. Smartphones have made it 1000x wo…

I think the last couple years have been especially bad. We've had a pandemic that isn't 100% over that removed a lot of the non-Internet interactions from most people's lives, we have a major land war in Europe now that could turn into a civilization-ending nuclear war at the drop of a hat, we had a contentious election in the U.S. about a year and a half ago that culminated in the Capital being ransacked, we've had ongoing droughts, wildfires, and heat waves that will probably just keep getting worse, we have supply chain disruptions, and so on.

It's really no wonder people are paying attention to the Internet, because at any moment some new calamity will be upon us. (It was kind of also true for me during the Trump presidency: I felt compelled to check the political news multiple times a day as if somehow my personal supervision and online comments would keep Trump from doing anything too crazy.) I've started to wonder if I'm exhibiting ADD-like symptoms, and I'm also wondering if it's not just me, that it's happening to most people at the same time.

Maybe things will go a little bit back to normal as in-person social interaction ramps back up. (I'm in the Portland area. Here, Covid restrictions are basically over but a lot of people are still operating in a pandemic mode. We've just now been allowed to work from our cubicles again, and only a couple of my coworkers actually do it on kind of a once-a-week cadence.) I don't think things are going back to anything like what I'd like to think of as normal, though. The world's just a really turbulent place right now.

Re: Why do you waste so much time on the internet?

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When you're past the denial stage, you're already halfway there. Glass half full and such.

From the blog it is clear that the real problem is a lack of a meaningful physical/social life, as the person indicates they have no friends, hobbies, etc.

Therefore, none of the tips on cutting down screen time are likely to address the fundamental issue. If you free up time this way but have no better purpose for this time, you still end up in the same spot.

So you need to rebuild your physical/social life and I have a solution at hand: volunteer work.

An animal shelter is incredibly fun and rewarding work. Another thing I tried is to help out the elderly. Where I live you can volunteer to "walk" them. You can chose the commitment in hours per week. These people are very old, typically lonely, and immobile. So I go outside with them, push the wheelchair whilst chatting with them.

I figured this would actually kind of suck, a job nobody wants to do. I was totally wrong, it's awesome. They are so incredibly grateful and the chats are tons of fun. They're full of stories. In case you're socially awkward (I personally am not), this is a safe way to practice just making casual conversation.

The great thing about volunteer work is that you will be universally accepted and LOVED, there's no anxiety of being rejected like you might have in making new friends.

The reward is infinite. I'm a stoic but truly there is nothing in this world more rich and rewarding than the response you get from helping others. You can see it in their eyes. This tiny commitment from your side means the world to them. A beacon of light in darkness.

Your work changes lives and you get to feel good about yourself. Your time has meaning and you have meaning. Volunteer work is also a great proxy to get to know the community, make new friends, etc.

Do it. Look it up in the local directory and just try it.

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