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Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

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Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

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wyldfire wrote: post #7

> Mercedes-Benz Cars says it plans to release “Drive Pilot,” a conditionally automated Level 3 system for automated driving I think it's pretty irresponsible to publish a picture of a driver taking his eyes off the road to play Tetris on a system designed for Level 3.

That's pretty much the definition of level 3;

> In certain situations, the driver can turn attention away from the road, but most always be ready to take full control again.

https://www.blickfeld.com/blog/levels-of-autonomous-driving/

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runetech wrote: post #34
halotrope wrote: post #11

Meanwhile in Jerusalem https://youtu.be/pDyMzz8HMIc

Wow. That was pretty convincing. Thanks for sharing.

Agreed. It should be kept in mind that Mobileye solution has not really seen a wide rollout and scrutiny yet. One can be optimistic considering that the CEO Amnon Shashua is known for a very careful and responsible conduct compared to e.g Tesla. This apparently let to them having a falling out because Tesla overpromised on the old stack selling it as “Autopilot” when it was L2 at best. Which resulted in them doing FSD from scratch after Mobileye cancelled the collaboration after a deathly accident. At least this seems to be the semi-official account of things.

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Post by freeflight »

everyone wrote: post #16

Is it still designed to mow down pedestrians? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mer... Mercedes ethics: Save the people who can afford lawyers.

Usually no pedestrians running around on the autobahn, for which this system is intended for.

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rootusrootus wrote: post #35
everyone wrote: post #16

Is it still designed to mow down pedestrians? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mer... Mercedes ethics: Save the people who can afford lawyers.

That's such a ridiculous problem to worry about. Humans don't try to solve the trolley problem, either, I don't know why we suddenly expect computers to be able to do it. The real answer is actually simple, and it's basically the same advice for human drivers: stop the car, however you can. Don't try to swerve, don't get clever, just dynamite the brakes and hope for the best. Or as they say on the race track "both pe…

Your argument works both ways. Lets say a truck is driving on the wrong side of the road and is going to flatten the mercedes (not too uncommon as truck drivers seem to be crazy and will overtake each other). Lets say it's possible to swerve onto the footpath and squash some pedestrians in order to avoid the truck. A human driver wont be solving the trolley problem here and will probably just die. It sounds Mercedes goal is for the car to save the driver and kill the pedestrians in this situation.

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freeflight wrote: post #64
everyone wrote: post #16

Is it still designed to mow down pedestrians? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mer... Mercedes ethics: Save the people who can afford lawyers.

Usually no pedestrians running around on the autobahn, for which this system is intended for.

Their plan (as it was in 2016) is to eventually have full self driving everywhere. Presumably the fundamental decisions they make now will carry forward.

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Post by halotrope »

freeflight wrote: post #54
halotrope wrote: post #11

Meanwhile in Jerusalem https://youtu.be/pDyMzz8HMIc

Kind of skeptical about how all the shots are only from night-drives, probably when traffic is the lowest. Didn't Tesla release a somewhat similar video, showing a Tesla driving across the US?

Agreed. They plan roll out Robotaxis in Germany and Israel this year. We will have to wait for third parties to verify the performance. There is another Video from NY last year that had a bit more traffic.

https://youtu.be/50NPqEla0CQ

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Post by Youden »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #49

This is powered by nvidia i think: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/04/16/mercedes-benz-eqs-h... This means if mercedes have it, so will many other automakers since nvidia sells to everyone.

The linked blog post seems to show off hardware but the software is all Mercedes, no? In that case automakers wouldn't be able to buy the self-driving capability from NVIDIA.
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