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The original “Bambi”

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Re: The original “Bambi”

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I grew up with this book. I absolutely loved it, and spent several years not thinking about it, until I remembered the chapter of the two leaves, which was my favorite chapter. I dug it up again and read it aloud to my wife. Just a wonderful book. I didn't really come away with half the interpretations that the author of this piece had, but that's okay. I didn't see it as an allegory for anything. I just loved how unromantic and poetic it was at the same time. I could analyze the book any which way, but the overall feeling it left me with is cohesive, strong, and original.

As for this piece, I wish he had gone more into the difference between the translations. That's how the piece started, and it ended with him simply saying the Chambers translation (the pre-existing one) is better. Didn't even include a comparison example.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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One folklore story we grew up with as kids was as simple as, you misbehave -> some stranger called “Bag man” will come take you in a big bag I don’t remember ever being actually scared of it but remember it since ever my memory had formed.

Did you grow up in the Mob?

Re: The original “Bambi”

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post #153

I recall something Stanley Kubrick said about Bambi being traumatizing: I saw Mary Poppins three times, because of my children, and I like Julie Andrews so much that I enjoyed seeing it three times. I thought it was a charming film. I wouldn’t want to make it, but … Children’s films are an area that should not just be left to the Disney Studios, who I don’t think really make very good children’s films. I’m talking ab…

Don't know -- I saw The Shining when I was 11 or 12 and it freaked me out pretty badly but I don't think it left any scars. It's a lot scarier than Psycho at any rate which mostly holds up but seems incredibly tame today.

11-12 is different than 6-7 but besides some nightmares, I don't think seeing scary movies have a negative impact on kids.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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I made a browser extension called No Scary Parts that skips traumatic scenes on Disney+ while trying to hold together a cohesive plot. Mainly for young kids who enjoy the music and other scenes, but aren't ready for the full story yet. https://thomaspark.co/projects/no-scary-parts/ Fantasia was easy. Managed to do The Lion King. Haven't been able to pull off Bambi yet...

> Fantasia was easy You no need an extension for that one. As a kid, I tried to watch it multiple times and I always fell asleep. And I was a very patient kid.

That you never got to the ending is why you consider it child appropriate. :P

Re: The original “Bambi”

#206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget about Pinocchio, who in the original Italian children's book is tortured and hanged for being such a "bad boy" [0][1]. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_... 1: https://slate.com/culture/2011/10/carlo-collodi-s-pinocchio-... The part of the movie where all of the boys on Pleasure Island begin to turn into donkeys always freaked me out as a kid.

>> Don't forget about Pinocchio, who in the original Italian children's book is tortured and hanged for being such a "bad boy" [0][1]. >> 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_... : > Pinocchio's bad behavior, rather than being charming or endearing, is meant to serve as a warning. That reminds me something I read about "Inuit parenting." They live in a dangerous and difficult environment, so…

Here's an Dena'ina example: http://denaina.anchoragemuseum.org/multimedia/denaina/the-st...

Re: The original “Bambi”

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post #153

I recall something Stanley Kubrick said about Bambi being traumatizing: I saw Mary Poppins three times, because of my children, and I like Julie Andrews so much that I enjoyed seeing it three times. I thought it was a charming film. I wouldn’t want to make it, but … Children’s films are an area that should not just be left to the Disney Studios, who I don’t think really make very good children’s films. I’m talking ab…

I think as adults we downplay how difficult first experiences can be, and so I don't think we get that the stories of loss and struggle in kids movies are speaking to them about real problems they either already have or will soon. Miyazaki has for some people become an alternative to Disney, but his work is full of Dumbo and Bambi moments. The difference is that in his work, the girl (and it is almost always a girl p…

Speaking of Miyazaki, I watched the Grave of the Fireflies when I was a child, and it was a devastating experience. (For those who haven't seen, it's a story of a brother and sister in Japan at the end of WWII.) It was as if I myself had lived through (and perhaps died in) a war. I watched it one more time in my life, but I cannot even write about it without tears coming to my eyes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies

Also, one of my childhood books was When the Wind Blows. (For those who haven't read it, it's a story of an old British couple going through the aftermath of a nuclear attack.) Similarly traumatizing. I suppose my parents meant to educate me about the horrors of war, but at such a young age (pre-teen, maybe around ten years old) my reading experience was so powerful that it felt like I lived through it. Scenes from that book still haunt me sometimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Wind_Blows_(comics)

Re: The original “Bambi”

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Yes, Bambi is an utterly depressing story. Most original material Disney adapted was bleakier and more grisly than the adaptation. Most of the tales collected by brothers Grimm would today be horror stories. (Did you know that Cinderella's evil stepsisters had their toes and heels cut off so they could fit in the slippers? Or that the ravens pecked their eyes as punishment? Or that Maleficent ends up in a boiling cau…

I think that Bambi is something of a war movie; look at the forest fire scene, there is fire everywhere, it must have been inspired by bombing raids during the battle of Britain. I wonder if some of the artists had first hand experience of these events. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQrqhdU99Ws Also the father commands his son 'you must get up'; he acts like a commander.

Or bombings of Dresden. If you want fire.

Re: The original “Bambi”

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post #153

I recall something Stanley Kubrick said about Bambi being traumatizing: I saw Mary Poppins three times, because of my children, and I like Julie Andrews so much that I enjoyed seeing it three times. I thought it was a charming film. I wouldn’t want to make it, but … Children’s films are an area that should not just be left to the Disney Studios, who I don’t think really make very good children’s films. I’m talking ab…

Where's that quote from? Was it before or after he let his daughter help out on the set of A Clockwork Orange? [1] Her job was said to be cutting out the letters on the wall.

(Which was awesome, I thought, even though she turned out to be about as messed-up as his quote would suggest.)

1: https://old.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/7q86pu/10_y...

Re: The original “Bambi”

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Ironic that the title of this post is now a sanitised version of the original in order to protect the sensitivities of the modern Hacker News readership.
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