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Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Interestingly, competition is worse for consumers in some respects here. It's resulting in fragmentation of the market such that people are too many services for 1-2 shows each

> competition is worse for consumers in some respects here The implicit assumption here is that without competition, we'd have all (or most) of the same shows, just on a single service. I don't think that's true. I think competition between streaming services largely on the basis of original content has produced a lot of good shows that we wouldn't have seen otherwise. It seems to me like there's a lot more variety i…

A shift in the competitive landscape might encourage distributors to integrate better with aggregators or meta-interfaces of various sorts. Or directly with one another, in some fashion.

> Would all of the Star Wars content on Disney+ even have been made if Disney couldn't put it on Disney+, for example?

I think the strongest argument in favor of the current arrangement is that monopolies yield rents, which (might!) mean more money for production. However, I think in a world where no production companies could own streaming platforms, production companies would probably... you know, still produce lots of content, since selling content would be their main way of making money, and you can't sell what you don't have.

More importantly than whether Disney would still be OK, I think it would make it easier for indies and startups to participate in the market.

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A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode

Automatic previews

Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on

Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy.

Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting

Signing and hiring ex politicians

Searching is a chore and recommendations are nearly never useful. (Just to have some toggles around metadata like language/genre/public rating and a text box to fuzzy search through titles and descriptions?)

I cancelled my subscription a few years ago and I get more mileage and enjoyable content out of free apps like tubi, pluto, vhscast and peacock than I had in a long time with netflix.

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One thing I appreciate Netflix for is atleast they are willing to do the bare minimum and give me 720p on Linux. I am also an Amazon Prime subscriber but Amazon is literally forcing me to pirate their shows because they refuse to serve more than 480p on Linux. Was trying to watch Jack Reacher last weekend and the quality was so bad that it was probably 360p, gave up after 3 episodes and ended up torrenting the season, which is a shame because I want to support shows I watch so they get more seasons.

In 2021 streamers should be supporting atleast 1080p for Linux but if they can't I can live with 720p like Netflix does, but serving 480p is just disrespectful and looks awful on any decent size modern monitor.

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You can turn them off

And then you can't play trailers. Though Netflix insists on playing on random clips instead of trailers anyway.

What does trailers have to do with auto play?

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Because people want to watch the leading shows in their area of interest and not have to pay 10+ services $10-$20 a month. As it gets increasingly hard/expensive, not to mention the bickering between services and platforms and services and markets to watch them on, customers are resorting to piracy as a way to get the content they want.

All these streaming companies battle for long term user acquisition, thus perpetual $10/month subscription per service for X providers is definitely a no-go long term. I think a middle ground would be shareware-like pay-per-view type model. Are you creating a new series? Make the first episode freely watchable, and then don't price excessively the entire season. As a consumer would make sense for me to pay 5$ for a s…

I was hoping for something like $50 a month and pay the creators accordingly. If I spend 10% of my viewing hours watching a particular series then the creator+provide can split the $5.

I wish the internet ads worked the same way. I'd happily pay any website 2x whatever google or similar ad networks pay, to avoid ads. Seems like it would help reduce clickbait as well.

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If anyone from netflix is reading, the reason I don't watch as much as I used to is because of the automatic previews. I used to just leave netflix open all day and randomly pick things when I felt like watching. I can't do that anymore. Though I do really appreciate how easy it is to suspend/cancel. I'll be back for stranger things, but who knows how long I'll stay.

I have to agree on that - it seems like forcing a show/movie to a user even if that does not align with their mood or historic picks. I am not interested at all in shows like Inventing Anna or Tinder Swindler or Selling Sunset but I have to still cope with them showing that moving banner ad like that covering so much real estate. What I would like to see is, semantic search where I could elaborate the shows/movies I'…

I'm just interested in something like a "not interested" button distinct from the thumbs down button. Netflix insists on suggesting the same shows I've never clicked for months or even years of them showing on my front page. I'd like to say, "Hey, stop suggesting this."

I don't feel like Netflix lacks things to watch, I just feel it does a terrible job keeping its suggestions fresh.

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This chart [1] was making the rounds a while back. Whether you totally agree with its methodology or not, it certainly suggests that many people consider a huge swath of Netflix' content average at best. And for someone like me who doesn't watch a huge amount of video, that's not a great look. Tastes differ of course but my tastes aren't that out of the mainstream. And I'd rather a streaming service had a modest numb…

I don't know about other people, but finding something to watch on Netflix is frustrating, there's so much poor quality shows. The recommendations are not good (tbf that's most streaming services) and there's no option for granular filtering. For example, I hate dubs, I would like to pick shows where the original audio is some particular language, I don't get why that isn't there? In contrast, on HBO Max / Disney+, u…

It used to be even better, they had user ratings in early versions. Hiding content or forcing users to watch things is extremely bad. they got away with all this because they had such a huge headstart on 90% of online streaming. There were no other options. Now... those things are starting to sour out.

I remember finding great b movies and content with user reviews.

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Netflix created the bad but successful template that the other streaming services followed: own the streaming platform and the content -- and now they're suffering for it, and so are consumers. As a consumer, I don't want to have 5 different streaming services with subs coming and going depending on what shows happen to be in season. I'd rather choose to subscribe to one of various streaming services that in turn let…

This seems to be the most obvious explanation. There is simply competition now where there was none before. A good learning moment here for HN, where we mistake lengthy in-depth blog posts for an unassailable tech advantage when in reality this stuff is kinda commodity.

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A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

I likewise would like to watch a nature documentary once in a while which didn’t feel obligated to mention impending doom at least once every five minutes. If anybody had anything to say about said doom above a fifth grade level, I might watch that too.
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