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Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by accountofme »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #42
kgermino wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there’s a few reasons they don’t worry about it: 1. This very rarely comes up at all. 2. These guys aren’t usually that good (by NHL standards) and you’ve probably lost the game anyway. You’re relying on your defense to keep the puck away from them more than you’re relying on them to excel. 3. (Probably most important to your point). This is one of the best days in this guy’s life. He’s In an NHL game and wil…

>These guys aren’t usually that good To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye. And on three, I agree. But the rule also applies to playoffs and it's interesting to imagine how you would play with your favorite team's Stanley Cup dreams riding on it. More so when you add in how the city would react to your actions.

But better to have a goalie, ANY goalie than no goalie at all?

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by CSMastermind »

0110101001 wrote: post #27

Also interesting is the rule that allows (requires?) players to serve as referees. > If, through misadventure or sickness, the Referees and Linesmen appointed are prevented from appearing, the League will make every attempt to find suitable replacement officials, otherwise, the Managers or Coaches of the two Clubs shall agree on Referee(s) and Linesman(men). If they are unable to agree, they shall appoint a player fr…

It's actually happened once before because a snowstorm delayed the officials from getting to the stadium.

By all accounts the chosen players called a fair game.

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by stuff4ben »

rawling wrote: post #17

> In 2018, the accountant Scott Foster stopped all seven shots he faced to preserve a win for the Chicago Blackhawks. In 2020, the Zamboni driver David Ayres famously recorded the first-ever win for an EBUG as he denied his hometown Maple Leafs for half a game. If Foster won as EBUG in 2018, how can Ayres have had the first-ever EBUG win in 2020?

I don't get it, all of these posts mentioning David Ayres never say that he played for the Carolina Hurricanes that game. We still revere him down here in North Carolina. Always the underdog, my Canes... but we're putting on a clinic this playoffs!

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by boomboomsubban »

accountofme wrote: post #81
boomboomsubban wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>These guys aren’t usually that good To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye. And on three, I agree. But the rule also applies to playoffs and it's interesting to imagine how you would play with your favorite team's Stanley Cup dreams riding on it. More so when you add in how the city would react to your actions.

But better to have a goalie, ANY goalie than no goalie at all?

Icing a goalie who is actively aiming for you to lose vs six skaters? Six skaters no contest. In most scenarios the EBUG is the better option though, I'm fantasizing about the extremely unlikely happening at the extremely key moments.

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by tzs »

leeoniya wrote: post #9
mindcrime wrote: post #3

It is one of the most interesting rules in sports, and does make for some incredible stories on the (rare) occasion when it is invoked. I first heard of this when Scott Foster played for the Blackhawks and thought it was one of the coolest things I'd ever heard of in my life at the time. And I still think this is one of the coolest things ever. Talk about memories that will last a lifetime. Wow.

also, random dude from audience plays drums for Foo Fighers https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll7lfZZjR4A

I'd be careful with that link. I clicked a link to a similar video where Dave Grohl invited a kid from the audience to play guitar at a Foo Fighters concert. I watched it, and a couple other videos YouTube suggested involving audience members invited to play during pop or rock concerts.

I had never heard of Dave Grohl before watching that video, and had never knowingly listened to Foo Fighters music. I had heard of them, and probably heard some of their songs in passing without knowing it, and that's all.

Nevertheless Google apparently decided I was obsessed with Dave Grohl and for the next couple of months my Google News feed has several Dave Grohl stories per day. Very few of them had anything to do with music. They were almost always trashy celebrity gossip such as who Grohl was seen with or when he was drunk and that kind of thing.

(And no, I don't normally follow any celebrity gossip--I only see celebrity gossip when a celebrity does something outrageous enough to make the national news, so this wasn't simply Google seeing that I liked gossip and adding Grohl to the mix).

I wasn't clicking those stores, and after a couple weeks I started clicking the "fewer stories like this" option, but they still kept almost completely filling up the "For You" part of my Google News feed.

I've never had that happen before or since with any other random link I've followed to a video. Just with Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters.

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by zoomablemind »

Delk wrote: post #37
teruakohatu wrote: post #29

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> Whether home or away, both teams in any given game can pull from the same roster I am in New Zealand and know nothing about ice hockey, but wouldn't it be risky to accept your opponents recommendation? Wouldn't a fan of their own team be a better bet, even if a worse player?

That's not really a choice for the visiting team to make. A team can only have two goalies dressed for a game. The emergency backup goalie rule (which is unique to the NHL, AFAIK) is that the home team has to have an emergency goalie booked who's available as a stand-in for either team should both of the team's dressed goalies get injured during the game. Either team would only realistically take that option if they…

> ...The emergency backup goalie is essentially the ultimate underdog and ends up being the fan favourite for the game.

I always thought that EBUG is an excellent PR device. It just feels to be so much "For the love of the game", something that fans on each side can relate.

Win or lose is situative, but the EBUG effect after such games is always humanising. So the lucky activated EBUGs are in the goal to simply play hockey, they are ultimately NHL ambassadors.

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by leeoniya »

tzs wrote: post #85
leeoniya wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

also, random dude from audience plays drums for Foo Fighers https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll7lfZZjR4A

I'd be careful with that link. I clicked a link to a similar video where Dave Grohl invited a kid from the audience to play guitar at a Foo Fighters concert. I watched it, and a couple other videos YouTube suggested involving audience members invited to play during pop or rock concerts. I had never heard of Dave Grohl before watching that video, and had never knowingly listened to Foo Fighters music. I had heard of t…

> I'd be careful with that link.

not really sure what this means in practice. should i always provide a disclaimer that Google ads will follow you for the next 6 months with every youtube link i post?

i install uBlock Origin for everyone i know with a computer, and additionally uMatrix for myself, so have no idea what kind of landfill everyone else has to surf through.

sorry, i guess?

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by banannaise »

hirvi74 wrote: post #6

I am a diehard NHL fan and a "beer league" goalie, and it would be my dream to be called up. However, I am acquainted with some individuals that are members of my favorite team's organization. My favorite team apparently has a roster of about 20 people that are "on call" for and given home game. Whether home or away, both teams in any given game can pull from the same roster i.e. the home team keeps the roster for bo…

That's not quite right. They rotate. On any given night, one of them has to be in the building with their gear, and that's the EBUG for either team. 15-20 guys is just the length of the call list so they can make sure someone is actually there for the game.

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by banannaise »

antasvara wrote: post #20
rawling wrote: post #17

> In 2018, the accountant Scott Foster stopped all seven shots he faced to preserve a win for the Chicago Blackhawks. In 2020, the Zamboni driver David Ayres famously recorded the first-ever win for an EBUG as he denied his hometown Maple Leafs for half a game. If Foster won as EBUG in 2018, how can Ayres have had the first-ever EBUG win in 2020?

AFAIK, the winning goalie is the goalie that's in net when the "winning" goal was scored. So, if your team wins 4-1,the winning goalie is the goalie that was in when their team scored the second goal. The implication with Foster seems to be that he came in after this winning goal was scored. Ayres, on the other hand, must have had the winning goal scored while he was on the ice.

Yep. Ayres, amusingly, got the win because he allowed two goals after coming in with a 3-1 scoreline. (It was 4-1 by the time he allowed a goal.) Foster, holding a lead, never allowed a goal, and thus didn't become the goalie of record.

Re: EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule

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Post by hirvi74 »

banannaise wrote: post #88
hirvi74 wrote: post #6

I am a diehard NHL fan and a "beer league" goalie, and it would be my dream to be called up. However, I am acquainted with some individuals that are members of my favorite team's organization. My favorite team apparently has a roster of about 20 people that are "on call" for and given home game. Whether home or away, both teams in any given game can pull from the same roster i.e. the home team keeps the roster for bo…

That's not quite right. They rotate. On any given night, one of them has to be in the building with their gear, and that's the EBUG for either team. 15-20 guys is just the length of the call list so they can make sure someone is actually there for the game.

You are right, and I should have worded that way. I can see how what I said makes it seem like no one is there, and they just burn through the list until they find someone.

Yes, the "on call" person is actually there, and if for some reason the team knows in advance that the EBUG cannot attend for whatever reason, THEN they go down the list for the next available "on call" EBUG. All of which happens before the game starts.

My team has had the same main EBUG for years, and he even runs his own Youtube channel if it piques your interest.

https://www.youtube.com/c/BonesyTV/videos

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