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Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by flir »

hans1729 wrote: post #60
routerl wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Whatever your pursuit, if you’re being judgmental of most other people, then you’re probably missing something big Sure, but this may very well be intentional and good; an entire community can become pathological, and it then makes sense (and is good) for principled people to trust their judgement, even if it makes them an outcast. Liberal-minded people often had this reaction to the mid-century rise of fascism, to…

> it then makes sense (and is good) for principled people to trust their judgement, even if it makes them an outcast. I don't get this. Being judgemental always seemed immature to me. Being curious and trying to understand why individuals or groups do seemingly irrational things: yes. Being judgemental (or "principled" (is this synonymous?)): no. To me, that was always a sign of someone who hasn't made sense of thems…

I don't need to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten. Using your judgement saves a lot of time. Your way (an infinite loop of "trying to understand" with no actual conclusion) just leaves you open to being repeatedly bitten by the same dog.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by darkerside »

patrck wrote: post #56

Recognizing the games that others are playing is useful, however refining your own games seems the much better play. What are your personal win conditions? What are the odds and your confidence in those odds that those will remain stable for the rest of your life? Are any inconsistent with the other conditions? Are all your win conditions attainable? Can you create a simple-to-follow path that leads to those win cond…

If you understand the other games out there, you may find you are playing the wrong one. Hard to decide that if you don't know all the games.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by darkerside »

ggambetta wrote: post #83
onionisafruit wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it was intentional, but I’m not entirely sure. Either way I loved it.

Pretty sure it is intentional - the spectator was judging the player on his performance on a game other than he was actually playing, which is the theme of the article. That's how I read it, at least.

Definitely the point. Brad plays football and doesn't realize he is watching baseball.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by smeej »

draw_down wrote: post #77
chucksmash wrote: post #40

Good thought. My immediate response is "yeah, I really didn't get the games other people were playing in junior high," which is the time frame the article evokes for me. I feel like the gotcha is you have to realize - at least sometimes - that there are still games you don't get. It's easy to feel like, "at ${year - 1} I was such an idiot, glad that's over now." You'd be surprised how many years in a row you can feel…

Indeed, as well as learning to accept that there are some games you'll just never be good at. Personally, I've never been good at playing the political game at work so I don't attempt to. There are times when I can tell it's being played, but maybe not even who exactly is playing, let alone what their strategy is or what a strategy might look like. It seems difficult and not fun at all though, so I'm ok with this ina…

I find I make this choice a lot, not to play games that don't seem enjoyable to me and/or where I don't think I would have much of a knack for them.

I struggle, though, to communicate to others that I don't think any less of them for choosing to play those games. If they're enjoying them, especially if they're also experiencing the success they want from them, I tend to think they should keep playing.

I just have a hard time convincing people I'm sincerely only making a subjective judgment when I opt out. The combination of effort, results, costs, and rewards isn't right for me personally to choose to do it, but if it is for them, I'm glad for them, and they should.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by uwagar »

koonsolo wrote: post #57
arvinsim wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy for nerds to get respect from other nerds. But I agree with him that nerds get little respect from non-nerds.

You are saying that women don't respect successful men? Because in my world, nerds are successful.

women respect such men as long as those men meet their needs. could be any man, nerd or not.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

booboofixer wrote: post #49

There was a comment on HN about a year ago by somebody that grew up in India, and being Pakistani i relate to it a lot as well. Specifically, it mentioned that these 'games' and people choosing one or two games out of a great number of games available out there seems like a uniquely North American thing (as far as we can tell from our own limited exposure to other societies). So while you folks had the jock, the nerd…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Cultures

Talks about this as a cultural thing.

I think people in the west are still surprised that nerds might weightlift or jocks might be really smart.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by Ma8ee »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #107
booboofixer wrote: post #49

There was a comment on HN about a year ago by somebody that grew up in India, and being Pakistani i relate to it a lot as well. Specifically, it mentioned that these 'games' and people choosing one or two games out of a great number of games available out there seems like a uniquely North American thing (as far as we can tell from our own limited exposure to other societies). So while you folks had the jock, the nerd…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Cultures Talks about this as a cultural thing. I think people in the west are still surprised that nerds might weightlift or jocks might be really smart.

And when you say "the west" you really mean US?

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by nicoburns »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #107
booboofixer wrote: post #49

There was a comment on HN about a year ago by somebody that grew up in India, and being Pakistani i relate to it a lot as well. Specifically, it mentioned that these 'games' and people choosing one or two games out of a great number of games available out there seems like a uniquely North American thing (as far as we can tell from our own limited exposure to other societies). So while you folks had the jock, the nerd…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Cultures Talks about this as a cultural thing. I think people in the west are still surprised that nerds might weightlift or jocks might be really smart.

> I think people in the west are still surprised that nerds might weightlift or jocks might be really smart.

I'd say that this is even more specifically a US thing. Perhaps it's just exaggerated on TV, but while there is a little bit of this attitude in the UK, I don't anything like the binary split there is portrayed in the US.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by mlatu »

Playing real life games like "who's first to get a BMW" sucks ass.

Sure, you play it hard and you win, and then? You have a shitty car that will eventually break down.

I cannot see the point in owning a car other than owning a means of transportation.

Owning loads of wealth in general?:

Yay claps you did well, now share with the rest of class you stingy pos.

Accumulating stuff on your person in any way can make you become a jerk.

Don't play games, live life.

There are to many players already and the only true winning condition is to have everyone win.

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