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Re: What game are you playing?

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Science and technology and other nerdy pursuits can be really valuable, and certainly don’t require you to be judgmental of others. The problem, as I’ve seen it is that people who are bad at some of the other ‘games’ that make a meaningful life lean too heavily on science and technology as a coping mechanism. That coping mechanism could be many things: nerdy pursuits, alcohol, video games, etc. Whatever your pursuit,…

Im guilty of being rather judgmental of others who performed worse than me in academics. I don’t really want to go into the reasons but, yes its very unhealthy to think that way. People have their reasons for why they choose to focus on some things and not others. Perhaps the most important goal of a good society is to be able to assign people to things they’re most suited for.

Re: What game are you playing?

#42
post #17

Shattered Pixel Dungeon. It's good for a procgen crawler. https://shatteredpixel.com/ Free for Android, and desktop. iOS is five bucks. Beware: It's addictive.

You’re being downvoted because you’re coming off as if you’re marketing. It’s okay though. Pixel dungeon is a lot of fun and well written to boot; the source is online

Thanks for the insight. Downvotes aren't a problem, they don't bother me. In fact, they are a useful and welcome signal.

SPD is what I've been playing casually for the past few months.

It's sort of like Diablo II, on your phone. Without save/restore points, if you die it's over for that character.

If you get a vampiric weapon, cherish it :). They're rare.

Re: What game are you playing?

#43
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re being downvoted because you’re coming off as if you’re marketing. It’s okay though. Pixel dungeon is a lot of fun and well written to boot; the source is online

Which is kinda weird on HN. Plenty of startups on here and plenty of startup people. At the same time I can see why blatant adverts on here would get old fast. They aren't usually interesting comments if they're ad copy.

Fwiw, I gain nothing from sharing it.

Re: What game are you playing?

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One of nerd's worst problems is that the games they play really deeply matter, that their pursuits can be fantastically stunningly valuable extrinsic & intrinsic pursuits. But there's so few people playing the good games, that commit to engaging the world as naked frankly & genuinely. This post preaches recognizing others game. But few people will ever have the capacity to genuinely recignize your game. Nerds: your p…

> nerds in particular get shit for respect I have no idea what world you're living in, but it's not mine.

We’re talking trad nerds, not Allnerds/techbros.

Re: What game are you playing?

#45

Interesting little article. To me, it speaks like the author is a bit remorseful for spending so much time on academic pursuits, and not building important social skills. I can recall in my youth making the assumption that someone was entirely stupid because they didn't share my breadth of knowledge. Like the author, I never considered that they spent their time in pursuit of other knowledge. I'm not sure where that…

I believe that he is remorseful, but for judging the world as being beneath him and not being able to see the beauty of others' games in some sense.

how much of his judging was actually coming from within? And how much was because the society (school system mostly) around him telling academics/science was the right thing to be doing, and since he was good at those, he was somehow better and allowed to judge others...

I don't even know if the society around him had the best intentions for him as an individual. Else he would have been taught better.

Re: What game are you playing?

#46
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nerds in particular get shit for respect I have no idea what world you're living in, but it's not mine.

It's easy for nerds to get respect from other nerds. But I agree with him that nerds get little respect from non-nerds.

Does that go both ways? Who do you (presumably nerd) respect? Sales people? PMs? Jocks? Influencers?

Re: What game are you playing?

#47
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It depends but most nerds I see arent playing power games at all, they're playing coop. Im not in SV & maybe that has something to do with why I cant recognize the shade you are throwing, dont see nearly the ego difficulties you claim. I spoke about power imbalance, but I saw it less about as having & wielding power, & really about understanding & due respect, about escaping our High Tech Gothic & living among the ea…

"They literally dont have the capacity to understand the nerds game". That's some primo tech elitism right there. I agree with the parent, that it's an interesting tale about waking up to the fact that others have been optimizing for other goals in life, and in many cases those make a ton of sense, perhaps even moreso than his science game. Your take on this however, seems to be some kind of idea that no one else can…

> Your take on this however, seems to be some kind of idea that no one else can gauge or judge the depths of your contributions, etc.

I do think we all have ways we want to be perceieved, things about ourselves we want to be recognized, strengths, and that there is a huge massive range of how visible/over/obvious and esoteric/exoteric and other dimensioms that goverm how visible these attributes/behaviors/characteristics/accomishmemts are.

> In fact I'm not completely sure what you're saying, but it appears to be almost the opposite of the original article.

I agree with the article. The article is telling nerds to recognize & acknowledge other people on their grounds, to look generally for good, in many forms.

> I've had my time of thinking what I do is especially valuable and unique. Then I grew up and realized we all (well, many of us) contribute to this world in our own way.

Picking up where I left off, my point is that some games are easier to understand than others. Im not trying to make any value judgement. I havent said being esoteric made anyone better.

I am trying to communicate how isolating & alienating the experice can be when it feels like others done understand your games. When other people perpetually see the score differently.

This post is communicating among other things some straightforward & overt things we can look for in others. Nerds can present as incredible, powerful, respectable people sometimes, they can be appreciated for their game, sometimes. But it can also be readily apparent & hard when it becomes clear people dont really know the score. It can be isolating seeing only superficial respect, or seeing what feels like uncomprehending or undeserved respect given to ourselves or others. Finding real peers, who are fit to judge & assess, is a real life challenge. For everyone. And especially for those a little more outside the mainstream, for the nerds. My posts here are just an attempt at fair warning, about what we can expect, about how hard it all too likely will be to find people who can appreciate your game. You very good excellent people's game especially.

If anything I think what Im saying amplifies the need for humility & mutual respect, & yes, some camraderie among technical peers.

Re: What game are you playing?

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One of nerd's worst problems is that the games they play really deeply matter, that their pursuits can be fantastically stunningly valuable extrinsic & intrinsic pursuits. But there's so few people playing the good games, that commit to engaging the world as naked frankly & genuinely. This post preaches recognizing others game. But few people will ever have the capacity to genuinely recignize your game. Nerds: your p…

> nerds in particular get shit for respect I have no idea what world you're living in, but it's not mine.

Rings true for me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Cultures

I know lots of engineers and scientists are devoted to art, opera, literature, history.

Next to zero artists or singers who are familiar with say, the laws of thermodynamics.

Re: What game are you playing?

#49
There was a comment on HN about a year ago by somebody that grew up in India, and being Pakistani i relate to it a lot as well.

Specifically, it mentioned that these 'games' and people choosing one or two games out of a great number of games available out there seems like a uniquely North American thing (as far as we can tell from our own limited exposure to other societies).

So while you folks had the jock, the nerd, the artist etc. , we had schools, teachers and parents that taught us we should strive to excel at everything, i.e. play every game and try to play it well.

Its a little disappointing to be put into a bucket by North American folks because they assume everyone is good at just one or two games. Not trying to be disrespectful, but i personally also think a little less of people that take so long to come to the realization that the author did in the article. A little ironic, if you think about it.

Re: What game are you playing?

#50
post #13

Conspicuous in its absence is the getting laid game. Or, put more healthily, the finding a spouse and starting a family game. That is of course the most consequential game most human beings have ever played or will ever play.

"Will ever" is quite the prediction. I think technology is going to completely disrupt this within the next 100-200 years. Sure players will have sex for fun, but the child birth process, genetic trait selection etc. will be on a whole new level. Your choice: will you use Meta-genetics or Google Birth?
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