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Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by api »

As the founder of what some say is a competitor (ZeroTier) I'd like to congratulate the Tailscale team. We don't really see Tailscale as the competition. We see the competition as:

(1) The old school castle and moat IT model that dominates at 99% of companies. If we can disrupt this then TS, ZT, and four other upstarts could all become billion dollar companies. Right now 1-2% of this market has been disrupted at most.

(2) The put everything in the cloud and everyone gets a thin client model. If that wins then all of us lose because there is no market for endpoint connectivity. We also lose all privacy, all data ownership, and all ability to experiment or innovate without paying for it by the instance-hour with TOS-enforcement bots looking over our shoulder.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by cogogo »

newhouseb wrote: post #7

Tailscale is my favorite (product) discovery of 2022. I initially set it up to use as a VPN to get around a misbehaving corporate firewall and accidentally realized it solved a whole bunch of other problems I didn't realize I had. Usually a new product doesn't even live up to the intended use case and so TS is really anomalous IMHO in how good it is. - SSH'ing into a raspberry pi I have at home that does random IoT s…

I've been using it since last summer to SSH to my pi too. Huge relief in terms of securing it. Easy to install and it just works. I'm not particularly savvy either.

My only complaint is that if you use it on your phone (iphone 11) and forget to turn it off it drains the battery like crazy.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by [deleted] »

eadmund wrote: post #10

> For people who believe there’s a catch — and most still do — then I don’t know how to write a blog post or hire a marketing or sales team to change their minds. I think the catch is that (at least at the free level) one must trust an identity providers. For many companies that's probably fair enough, but for high-security companies and private individuals one absolutely cannot trust anything running outside of one'…

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Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by RL_Quine »

lmeyerov wrote: post #34
eadmund wrote: post #10

> For people who believe there’s a catch — and most still do — then I don’t know how to write a blog post or hire a marketing or sales team to change their minds. I think the catch is that (at least at the free level) one must trust an identity providers. For many companies that's probably fair enough, but for high-security companies and private individuals one absolutely cannot trust anything running outside of one'…

Yep we had it rejected w an enterprise we work with as the org needed to own the full control plane so we couldn't bring it in, and not on the schedule for the org's security team for them to bring it in. Making a smarter, easier, and less creepily managed VPN more palatable to enterprises would be awesome, so the marketing value of their fundraise is real.

There's a kind of WIP control server implementation, it's not production ready in my opinion but it's definitely usable.

https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by jonfw »

There is another interesting company in this space- Netmaker[0]. It's been getting a lot of traction in the homelab space- namely because it takes advantage of kernel wireguard, which is more performant than the userspace wireguard that tailscale uses.

[0] - https://www.netmaker.org/

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by contravariant »

gowld wrote: post #32
boesboes wrote: post #12

For anyone else who wonders wtf tailscale is: > Tailscale is a VPN service that makes the devices and applications you own accessible anywhere in the world, securely and effortlessly. It enables encrypted point-to-point connections using the open source WireGuard protocol, which means only devices on your private network can communicate with each other. It seems to take care of key distribution, nat-traversal, authen…

"Fixing the internet" == you can comunicate with computers that want to comunicate with you, and not with others.

"Fixing the internet" == you can communicate with computers that you want to communicate with, and not with others.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by alberth »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #37
Lightbody wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't really felt like 1Password's product materially strayed from the original mission. If anything, I'm even more delighted with the team functionality, shared vaults, quick keyboard access in 1Password 8, etc. I wouldn't put them in the Dropbox bucket. Also, I think the value Tailscale provides is fairly unique and far from obviously a platform feature like file storage and perhaps even password management.

Indeed, 1Password is practically a utility at this point, as far as I'm concerned. I really like the direction they're heading and they're solving some pretty tricky problems without compromising on security, predominantly in the enterprise domain. The experience is the same regardless of whether you're an enterprise user or a personal or family user. It's polished enough that my grandma can use it.

> I really like the direction [1Password] is heading

I thought customers were complainingly loudly against their new direction of making 1Password an Electron app. Is that not the case?

Note: I'm not a 1Password customer.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by cassianoleal »

hu3 wrote: post #30

They are open source too: https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale edit: Only the client is open source. See clarification below.

The clients are. The control server, which is the bit that Tailscale host, is not.

There is an open source alternative called headscale [0]. The main downside is that you'll need to run it.

The closed source centralised control server has other potential issues though, and it ends up being up to the user to decide what's the right balance of security vs convenience.

[0] https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

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