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Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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I would like to know why Yandex though that opening data centers in western counties would be a good idea. Surely they knew that, as a Russian company, if their government ever becomes aggressive, they'll also be targeted by sanctions.

Surely? That’s 20/20 hindsight.

It’s obvious that using Cloud services gives unlimited power to the provider, too. It’s not hindsight, it’s basic laws of human power.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

#12

I would like to know why Yandex though that opening data centers in western counties would be a good idea. Surely they knew that, as a Russian company, if their government ever becomes aggressive, they'll also be targeted by sanctions.

I don't think anyone expected them to go quite as berserk as Putin has. It's easy to forget that for several years, Putin was actually a halfway-decent steward of the Russian economy. That's what makes this whole thing so weird... he could have gone down in history as one of Russia's more respected leaders. All he had to do was not rock the boat. Instead, he literally sank it. Putin simply had no reason -- certainly…

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Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

#13

How hot does waste heat from data centers get? Is it up to 100 degrees Fahrenheit? Seems like it would be difficult to efficiently transport that heat into nearby homes.

The Nordic countries are famous for pioneering low temperature district heating. This can be as low as 50 C. Sorry, no citation, this is what I heard at a project meeting on district heating networks in Switzerland.

District heating with such (relatively) low temperatures is no problem, the energy to pump is much less than the energy to heat. My house is heated from nuclear waste heat pumped more around 10 kilometers.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

#14

How hot does waste heat from data centers get? Is it up to 100 degrees Fahrenheit? Seems like it would be difficult to efficiently transport that heat into nearby homes.

Oh I see that they can use heat pumps to concentrate the heat and make its reuse more efficient

Yes, the water is heated to 90-120 Celcius before being circulated.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

#15

I would like to know why Yandex though that opening data centers in western counties would be a good idea. Surely they knew that, as a Russian company, if their government ever becomes aggressive, they'll also be targeted by sanctions.

I don't think anyone expected them to go quite as berserk as Putin has. It's easy to forget that for several years, Putin was actually a halfway-decent steward of the Russian economy. That's what makes this whole thing so weird... he could have gone down in history as one of Russia's more respected leaders. All he had to do was not rock the boat. Instead, he literally sank it. Putin simply had no reason -- certainly…

Which years?

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arabs could have easily sanctioned US and the rest of West back then. Or maybe people were happy to see Husein go... While in this case the world has a different opinion.

No one can easily sanction the US, even if it invades a country against all UN rules. Countries that opposed the invasion didn’t even leave NATO.

the whole world is sorta experiencing chinese sanctions now? haha

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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post #13

How hot does waste heat from data centers get? Is it up to 100 degrees Fahrenheit? Seems like it would be difficult to efficiently transport that heat into nearby homes.

The Nordic countries are famous for pioneering low temperature district heating. This can be as low as 50 C. Sorry, no citation, this is what I heard at a project meeting on district heating networks in Switzerland. District heating with such (relatively) low temperatures is no problem, the energy to pump is much less than the energy to heat. My house is heated from nuclear waste heat pumped more around 10 kilometers…

My apartment will be heated by Microsoft Teams calls.

https://yle.fi/news/3-12363215

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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I would like to know why Yandex though that opening data centers in western counties would be a good idea. Surely they knew that, as a Russian company, if their government ever becomes aggressive, they'll also be targeted by sanctions.

How should they have known? Russia attacked both Georgia and Ukraine before, and the West never reacted in any meaningful way.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

#20

I would like to know why Yandex though that opening data centers in western counties would be a good idea. Surely they knew that, as a Russian company, if their government ever becomes aggressive, they'll also be targeted by sanctions.

On paper they are a Dutch company.
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