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A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

Clearly the brain is the message processing center for the antenna, which is the pineal gland.

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by jameshart »

miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

Seems like there's nothing in that model that would stop you from being able to remember events that didn't even happen to you.

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by shiftpgdn »

jameshart wrote: post #42
miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

Seems like there's nothing in that model that would stop you from being able to remember events that didn't even happen to you.

Encryption with a signed keypair maybe.

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by outworlder »

miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

That's potentially a good starting point for a sci-fi setting.

That's unlikely to have any resemblance to how brains work though. For one, we would be lacking the mechanism to do such a 'retrieval'. We can also influence memory formation.

Say you binge drink. You are temporarily unable to form memories. We can pinpoint the exact area affected. Unless alcohol is somehow able to influence the micro-wormholes, it shouldn't affect memories at all.

> As developer I think it would make most sense to only save references rather than trying store all events inside everyones brains.

Remember, nature does not care about that.

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by outworlder »

elliekelly wrote: post #39
lm28469 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As developer I think it would make most sense to only save references rather than trying store all events inside everyones brains. That would be huge waste of resources and just damn stupid. > And probably the way we humans have built our computers also reflects how the universe really works, because after all we are bits of the universe doing whatever the universe is doing. I think this is way too simplistic. Just…

Helicopters kind of fly like birds don’t they?

They don't. They fly because they are so ugly that the ground repels them.

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by pvarangot »

treeman79 wrote: post #33
miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

True or not. This would make much better sci-fi trope then current quantum entanglement plot lines

Coherence (2013) was pretty good though. Haven't really seen a quantum entanglement movie after that one.

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by hirako2000 »

elliekelly wrote: post #39
lm28469 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As developer I think it would make most sense to only save references rather than trying store all events inside everyones brains. That would be huge waste of resources and just damn stupid. > And probably the way we humans have built our computers also reflects how the universe really works, because after all we are bits of the universe doing whatever the universe is doing. I think this is way too simplistic. Just…

Helicopters kind of fly like birds don’t they?

Rather like some particular family of insects. Both planes (depending on their engine part) and helicopters use aero propulsion but their mechanisms differ somewhat as much as for between helicopters and birds.

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by zdragnar »

jameshart wrote: post #42
miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

Seems like there's nothing in that model that would stop you from being able to remember events that didn't even happen to you.

Or events that didn't happen, or memories formed differently from how events actually occurred...

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by e_i_pi_2 »

lm28469 wrote: post #30
miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

> As developer I think it would make most sense to only save references rather than trying store all events inside everyones brains. That would be huge waste of resources and just damn stupid. > And probably the way we humans have built our computers also reflects how the universe really works, because after all we are bits of the universe doing whatever the universe is doing. I think this is way too simplistic. Just…

Yeah I always like to think like this sometimes, but as far as we know a "reference" doesn't make sense in the brain - it doesn't have access to external stuff so in the brain context it would be like neurons connecting to a single neuron. Aside from something like a URL a computer can't reference anything outside of itself and I don't think we have a brain equivalent

Re: A single memory is stored across many connected brain regions

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Post by myth_drannon »

miika wrote: post #27

There is also another model about memory which I totally love. In that memory is not stored but brain is more like an antenna which can retrieve information from the space time coordinates where events actually took place. Because everything is constantly moving around something each event in the universe probably has unique location, a real physical place where it happened. So, the idea is that as we’re moving throu…

That's too much of Dan Simmons here.
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