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Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by donatj »

coding123 wrote: post #72
donatj wrote: post #13

A number of my personal sites end up blocked by corporate firewalls. It’s slightly infuriating. Even my own company. I got in a literal fight with IT needing to justify the why in why I needed access to my own website. Like I can live without it, but it’s nothing but my blog where I rant about tech. The why should be why is it blocked to begin with. The default state should not be blocked .

And there's still devs that want the in-office life still..

We've been working home for 2 years. They want us to run all traffic through the VPN that applies the same filtering. Please excuse me if I forget to turn it on.

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by dylan604 »

donatj wrote: post #13

A number of my personal sites end up blocked by corporate firewalls. It’s slightly infuriating. Even my own company. I got in a literal fight with IT needing to justify the why in why I needed access to my own website. Like I can live without it, but it’s nothing but my blog where I rant about tech. The why should be why is it blocked to begin with. The default state should not be blocked .

>I got in a literal fight with IT needing to justify the why in why I needed access to my own website.

Legitimately asking, why do you need access to your private website on corporate resources during work? Access your private stuff on your BYOD.

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by mod50ack »

olyjohn wrote: post #79
rhdunn wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Richard is often shortened to Dick, e.g. as in "Tom, Dick, and Harry".

I know that Dick is another name for Richard. But Why? They don't seem to even be plays off of the same name, nor do they sound the same at all. It's like if another name for John was Frank. It makes zero sense.

It comes from Middle English rhyming slang. Rick -> Dick; Rob -> Bob.

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by E4YomzYIN5YEBKe »

olyjohn wrote: post #79
rhdunn wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Richard is often shortened to Dick, e.g. as in "Tom, Dick, and Harry".

I know that Dick is another name for Richard. But Why? They don't seem to even be plays off of the same name, nor do they sound the same at all. It's like if another name for John was Frank. It makes zero sense.

It likely originated in rhyming slang where words that rhyme are used as replacement[0]. It isn't the only example in nick names. Bill is a nickname for William and Bob is a nickname for Robert.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhyming_slang

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by jjjensen90 »

II2II wrote: post #34
steventhedev wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These content filtering schemes are usually legally mandated, and the age of 18 is set by law. More likely than not, this got caught up in a regular job that scans DNS zones for new domains to "filter". It's just a matter of time before this catches anything related to Scunthorpe[0]. [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

> These content filtering schemes are usually legally mandated, and the age of 18 is set by law. It's also worth adding that 18 is typically the age when someone is considered legally accountable for their actions as an adult. We shouldn't be surprised that this age pops up in so many laws because of that, even though it is an arbitrary line in most cases.

The odd thing is that in most countries the age of consent is below (sometimes significantly below) 18. So we’ve got strange mixed signals.

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by Beldin »

olyjohn wrote: post #79
rhdunn wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Richard is often shortened to Dick, e.g. as in "Tom, Dick, and Harry".

I know that Dick is another name for Richard. But Why? They don't seem to even be plays off of the same name, nor do they sound the same at all. It's like if another name for John was Frank. It makes zero sense.

Wait till you find out about "Buffy".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by peppermint_tea »

sofixa wrote: post #25
isaacfrond wrote: post #15

It is not totally clear from the article, but it appears Vodafone blocks a site as 'for 18+' when really it is a case of an incorrect certificate. To get round it you need to register with Vodafone. At least google allows me to click away such warnings (while warning that doom is imminent).

Isn't the certificate "incorrect" only because Vodafone block the site and intercept the TLS connection? That's why the "incorrect" TLS cert presented mentions Vodafone's "solution" for traffic filtering. That's my read of things.

same. Just inspected the original cert (not on vodaphone here) and the cert is verified by GlobalSign nv-sa

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by K0nserv »

I have a Virgin Media subscription for my phone and a while back I discovered that sometimes Reddit didn't load. It took me a while to figure out that it was on 4G and happened because I'd been using Virign's DNS servers. This is a similar "adult filter", that most UK ISPs implement.

AFAIK the filtering isn't legally mandated, but something the ISPs decide on together based on a some government memo. In any case it's dead simple to bypass and a very blunt tool. For example, why does Virigin block Reddit, but not Twitter? Both sites feature adult content, in fact so does Google image search.

The silver lining in all this stupidity is perhaps that it creates a more technically talented population. I don't expect most teenagers know or want to know about DNS, but if that's what stands between them and adult content I'm sure they'll learn.

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by LordDragonfang »

sockmeistr wrote: post #74
josephcsible wrote: post #61

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I don't think that has anything to do with it, because of this: > It shows that this filter is for this specific host name only, not for the entire haxx.se domain.

No offence to the other members of haxx, but I suspect Daniel's site is the only one that gets enough traffic to be considered for filtering.

Somehow that seems worse. Don't apply automatic filters to sketchy, fly-by-night spam sites that pop up and disappear, but do apply purely automatic filters to sites with a significant enough amount of legitimate traffic?

That seems to be exactly backwards of the way things should be done if it wasn't mostly security theater.

Re: Considered "18+"

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Post by smhenderson »

olyjohn wrote: post #79
rhdunn wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Richard is often shortened to Dick, e.g. as in "Tom, Dick, and Harry".

I know that Dick is another name for Richard. But Why? They don't seem to even be plays off of the same name, nor do they sound the same at all. It's like if another name for John was Frank. It makes zero sense.

Did you know people often use Jack as a shorthand for John? JFK was often, famously, referred to as Jack Kennedy when he was alive...
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