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Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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Super useful! However, I get a “504 Gateway Time-out” error for https://betagainst.fun/asset/bz__f_bno/ . HN hug of death?

Do you have an Orbi or Netgear router? The service they use to block harmful websites has list this one as harmful.

Nope; I have a TP-Link router.

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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Couple of random thoughts: - Building things like this is always great. And its a fun site to poke around on. - I would not count on this approach or expect it to be reliable in terms of actually hedging. Correlation, as a measure, has lots of issues. You are boiling down a lot of complex relationships into a single number. While it is convenient for many calculations, there are many problems. For example, many asset…

TL;DR: Correlations does not imply causation.

Having said that, if you can find a negative correlation AND there is a strong reason to believe that the negative correlation will hold as long as X and Y hold, then the tool could be very useful.

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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I can see the risk in short positions - you theoretically could lose an infinite amount (if you borrow X shares of something, sell them, but then can't find any to buy when it comes to returning them), and it's certainly possible to lose more than you put in (sell 100 short at $10 netting you $1000, price doubles overnight on new news, you have to buy $2000, losing a total of $1000 in the process. If price trippled o…

For anybody who wants maximum risk, and wants to lose money as fast as possible, and in the biggest amounts, there is always the Cryptocurrency Futures market. A bit like Negative Chess...

What's wrong with crypto futures?

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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Great project! Even more so, congrats on shipping something!

A little tip from someone who dabbles in algorithmic trading, look into cointegration as well as correlation. Also, the cross correlation matrix changes over time, you can have great fun seeing spikes and convergence/divergence as markets tend to get more or less correlated reacting to real life events.

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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How does this submission have both text and a URL? When hitting submit it's shown as either/or. Does the server not enforce it?

At one point a few months ago I tried to do the same in an 'Ask HN' post (not knowing how it was supposed to work), and the text portion of my submission was accepted as a comment on the post that got buried and led to lots of confusion.

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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Couple of random thoughts: - Building things like this is always great. And its a fun site to poke around on. - I would not count on this approach or expect it to be reliable in terms of actually hedging. Correlation, as a measure, has lots of issues. You are boiling down a lot of complex relationships into a single number. While it is convenient for many calculations, there are many problems. For example, many asset…

TL;DR: Correlations does not imply causation. Having said that, if you can find a negative correlation AND there is a strong reason to believe that the negative correlation will hold as long as X and Y hold, then the tool could be very useful.

Yes, agree, correlations don't imply causation.

The TLDR is more that correlations throw a lot of information away.

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People still do pair trading though, right?

That's kinda the opposite of what that site is advocating since in pair trading you are going long one and short the other. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pairs_trade The most famous pair trade was this: in the morning of a trading day you buy the stocks that performed the worst yesterday and short the ones that performed the best. Because the market reverts to the mean, this strategy made money hand over fist from th…

I just assumed you could use the correlations the site was suggesting to find diversions between stocks that we’d assume might revert to the mean.

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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How does this submission have both text and a URL? When hitting submit it's shown as either/or. Does the server not enforce it?

Huh, I didn't realise that was possible either. To be fair though, it does say 'or', not 'xor'!

In casual English “or” means “xor” most of the time.

Re: Show HN: Find the 10 highest and 10 lowest correlations to any stock

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anybody who wants maximum risk, and wants to lose money as fast as possible, and in the biggest amounts, there is always the Cryptocurrency Futures market. A bit like Negative Chess...

What's wrong with crypto futures?

It's effectively unpredictable.
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