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Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Re: Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Post by tomxor »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #6
usednet wrote: post #2

I’m curious as to what HN’s VPNs of choice are. I personally use IVPN and Mullvad.

My own digital ocean droplet. Its easy to set up and get going, costs only $5/mo, and with all of my other droplets bandwidths combined I effectively have unlimited bandwidth. Only ever use it on public wifi, and it isn't meant to be "private", just good enough to prevent accidental data leakage at Starbucks/doctors' offices/wherever else my 5g doesn't reach and I'm forced onto public WiFi.

I used to do this, and it's nice having your own IP, however keep in mind that while you preserve privacy from your ISP/gov you lose privacy from the websites and services you access as you become very uniquely identifiable.

Re: Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Post by ziddoap »

throwaway4good wrote: post #59
ziddoap wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in real life, both VPNs and anonymous currency have other applications than committing crimes. What's your point?

That they don't have any practical applications other than committing crime?

There are plenty of other practical applications. I guess if you believe that only criminals want privacy it might be hard to see them, though.

Do you also believe that encryption is evil? Those pesky criminals use it all the time.

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Post by McDyver »

throwaway4good wrote: post #59
ziddoap wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in real life, both VPNs and anonymous currency have other applications than committing crimes. What's your point?

That they don't have any practical applications other than committing crime?

Does that mean that every user replying to this thread is a criminal and have no legitimate use to the VPN?

Re: Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Post by michaelt »

throwaway4good wrote: post #60
michaelt wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Unbanked' is a term used in policy circles for people who don't have bank accounts. For example undocumented migrants, homeless people, people fleeing abusive partners, people with a history of bankruptcy, and so on. This can be politically important because if the state wants to pay all benefits by bank transfer to keep admin costs down, they've got to make sure even the most vulnerable people in our society can ge…

In crypto circles it is also code word for "criminals". As in for example "banking the unbanked" which translates into "providing extremely expensive banking like services for criminals."

I'll be honest, I've never heard 'unbanked' used in relation to cryptocurrency or criminals before vmception used it above.

I know my drug dealer can't pay duffle bags full of cocaine-covered $100 bills into the bank - but he can still get a personal checking account and pay in $100 a week or so. So I would not describe him as 'unbanked' in the conventional sense.

Re: Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Post by throwaway4good »

ziddoap wrote: post #63
throwaway4good wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That they don't have any practical applications other than committing crime?

There are plenty of other practical applications. I guess if you believe that only criminals want privacy it might be hard to see them, though. Do you also believe that encryption is evil? Those pesky criminals use it all the time.

That is a bit of a straw man ain’t it?

I was talking about the real world use cases for a vpn paid with monero.

Re: Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Post by nonrandomstring »

tomxor wrote: post #54
seanw444 wrote: post #41

Thank you, Mullvad team! This is quite literally the only feature I've been wanting. Everything else works well. Bandwidth? Excellent. Apps? Excellent. WireGuard? Excellent. No form of KYC required, period? Excellent. Payment options? Excellent. I hope I don't live to see you turn into every other shady VPN service.

I really like mullvad's service too (wiregaurd)... My only issue is that is seems to have become increasingly difficult to access many websites through their servers. I suppose this is inevitable to some degree with any VPN service, it's part of the deal for more privacy, you have to share an IP with potential sources of abuse. But it seems to have gotten really bad recently to the point that I end up server hoping t…

> My only issue is that is seems to have become increasingly difficult to access many websites through their servers.

Welcome to the world of Tor users. People who value online dignity need to work together against privacy hostile web technologies. My present bugbear is Cloudflare, who seem to do a lot to disrupt privacy respecting technologies. Ultimately though, the power lies with web service designers. One can no longer pretend "I didn't know" when turning over delivery to some cheap (free) but shady CDN who then blocks millions of legitimate users because they don't want to be tracked and spied on.

Re: Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Post by throwaway4good »

McDyver wrote: post #64
throwaway4good wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That they don't have any practical applications other than committing crime?

Does that mean that every user replying to this thread is a criminal and have no legitimate use to the VPN?

If you add paid with monero then probably yes.
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