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Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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Re: Mullvad VPN now accepts Monero payments

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I’m curious as to what HN’s VPNs of choice are. I personally use IVPN and Mullvad.

AirVPN You can use openvpn or wireguard as clients (or their own), and while i was writing this I just saw they accept payments with different crypto (bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin, bitcoin cash, dash, doge, monero)

Same.

The other big point in AirVPN's favor is configurable port forwarding. Makes it much easier to quickly expose something to the internet on any network.

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No, this just keeps you private from all private sector actors and friends and spouses Lets children and other unbanked pay for vpns as they don’t have banking access, they can earn some crypto from someone and bridge that to monero Tor if you don’t want any private sector logging + additional access to the onion internet A TorOS if you want more hardened access

Unbanked?

'Unbanked' is a term used in policy circles for people who don't have bank accounts.

For example undocumented migrants, homeless people, people fleeing abusive partners, people with a history of bankruptcy, and so on.

This can be politically important because if the state wants to pay all benefits by bank transfer to keep admin costs down, they've got to make sure even the most vulnerable people in our society can get a bank account.

Of course, usually the unbanked use cash.

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I would say VPN and monero are the digital equivalent to a balaklava and cash. Did you ever use any of those in "real life", or only when committing crimes?

In real life cash and balaklava have other purposes than keeping your identity hidden. (Balaklava may keep your head warm and cash may be the only possible payment in some situations.)

And in real life, both VPNs and anonymous currency have other applications than committing crimes. What's your point?

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Thank you, Mullvad team! This is quite literally the only feature I've been wanting. Everything else works well. Bandwidth? Excellent. Apps? Excellent. WireGuard? Excellent. No form of KYC required, period? Excellent. Payment options? Excellent. I hope I don't live to see you turn into every other shady VPN service.

I really like mullvad's service too (wiregaurd)... My only issue is that is seems to have become increasingly difficult to access many websites through their servers.

I suppose this is inevitable to some degree with any VPN service, it's part of the deal for more privacy, you have to share an IP with potential sources of abuse. But it seems to have gotten really bad recently to the point that I end up server hoping throughout the day because different websites will have blocked different mullvad servers - to complicate matters some of their newer server IPs hosted by another company are misidentified as russian and blocked by many sites and services.

I'm not blaming Mullvad, but it's changed my use of their service from a set and forget to a constant reminder that i'm on a VPN... I don't know what the solution is beyond some crude cycling of IPs.

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> So if I want to get started with cybercrime; is Mullvad and Monero the way to go? Yes. > Any other tools that I should be aware of? Like Tor, I hear that Signal is also a great choice for terrorists and extremists as well according to some testimonials from them. The road to hell is paved with good intensions.

> according to some testimonials from them

I'd rather not be that guy... but we have a survivorship bias problem here.

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I wonder how they plan to impose compliance on entities that have no legal presence in India, accept cryptocurrency payments, and take no PII as part of the signup process - all of which I believe apply to Mullvad.

They are gonna ban self custodial wallet which are rare in India anyway. So exchange will monitor and KYC anyone you transfer crypto coins to. Impose a penalty on the citizen side as well.

Monero users are more likely to be the type to use a cold wallet, and a ban on cold wallets is unenforceable (especially for Monero, where transactions can't be traced) as it's kind of like holding cash, except that there isn't anything to be found physically.

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In real life cash and balaklava have other purposes than keeping your identity hidden. (Balaklava may keep your head warm and cash may be the only possible payment in some situations.)

And in real life, both VPNs and anonymous currency have other applications than committing crimes. What's your point?

That they don't have any practical applications other than committing crime?

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Unbanked?

'Unbanked' is a term used in policy circles for people who don't have bank accounts. For example undocumented migrants, homeless people, people fleeing abusive partners, people with a history of bankruptcy, and so on. This can be politically important because if the state wants to pay all benefits by bank transfer to keep admin costs down, they've got to make sure even the most vulnerable people in our society can ge…

In crypto circles it is also code word for "criminals".

As in for example "banking the unbanked" which translates into "providing extremely expensive banking like services for criminals."

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