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Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we trust them on the security, privacy side of things?

What's your threat model?

I don't remember the brand, but a smartwatch brand's activity feed was public, and the some military personnel bought these, and trained around the military bases, leaving nice outlines secret bases, complete with their GPS coordinates.

Then that thing was banned, again IIRC.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your threat model?

I don't remember the brand, but a smartwatch brand's activity feed was public, and the some military personnel bought these, and trained around the military bases, leaving nice outlines secret bases, complete with their GPS coordinates. Then that thing was banned, again IIRC.

That’s just what a default is. I think it was Fitbit? Fitbit got lame for me after. Every one’s feed was private even for basic info. It was unnecessary to make everything private by default for the average person except to combat all the blow back from the PR of that story and vocal people like many on here.

It’s not disssimilar to how Cambridge Analytica gave FB an excuse to clamp down on their API and put much more content even more in their control. The API for many things became useless after the clamp down. Not that a response wasn’t required.

However, in both situations, it was like throwing the baby out with the bath water

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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I was still in school in the first half of the 2000s and spent a lot of my hard earned money on more or less useful and smart hardware, especially smartphones (mostly called PDA-phones in the pre-iPhone era) and with hardware keyboard. I think my first device was the HTC Blue Angel. I also had a Treo 600 and the Palm Abacus. Those were really nice devices, PalmOS was way better than Windows Mobile and worlds better t…

I do nostalgically miss the one PalmOS and one Windows Mobile 6 device I had of each. That might be mostly nostalgia though. Not sure. My love for webOS OTOH is still being sad it didn’t become a distant 3rd mobile OS. I’d likely be rocking a webOS phone. Possibly tablet right now. Instead of going from Windows Mobile 6 -> iPhone -> webOS -> Windows Phone 7 -> Samsung Galaxy Note -> iPhones since then. I used to mess up or break my phones frequently so some of the switches were because of that.

—- Related. I have a lot of nostalgia and actual usefulness from jailbreaking iPhones too. That seems like it may barely be a thing now with iOS 15 changes.

Even an M1 Mac won’t run iOS/iPadOS apps if any of the SIP securities are disabled.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Pebble shutdown almost 8 years ago now and there does still not to be a replacement or alternative that can: last up to a week of battery life, do basic things like allow you to get and read notifications, and be a watch.

I enjoyed my Pebble but most Garmins have all that and a whole lot more.

Do you have one? From the pictures of them the screens seem really small and therefor not really apt for more "finnicky" things like reading mails, planning routes etc.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Pebble shutdown almost 8 years ago now and there does still not to be a replacement or alternative that can: last up to a week of battery life, do basic things like allow you to get and read notifications, and be a watch.

Amazfit Bip lasts 4-6 weeks on single charge with always on transreflective display with readability improving with more sunlight (opposite of useless OLED power hungry displays) and I use it exactly just to check time and read notifications, I also use it to track my sleep, step counts and heart rate, plus one of the most used features in my night apartment is using display backlight (necessary only in dark) as flas…

Do you trust Amazfit with your data? I can't trust such a Chinese entity with so much personal data.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Pebble shutdown almost 8 years ago now and there does still not to be a replacement or alternative that can: last up to a week of battery life, do basic things like allow you to get and read notifications, and be a watch.

Here you go: https://pine64.org/pinetime.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Pebble shutdown almost 8 years ago now and there does still not to be a replacement or alternative that can: last up to a week of battery life, do basic things like allow you to get and read notifications, and be a watch.

Check out the Wyze Watch, it's surprisingly good for the price, and battery life is great

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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When I read articles like this one I always have to think about companies like Apple and Tesla. Apple didn't invent smartphones or touchscreens but they started the revolution. Tesla didn't invent EVs but started the revolution. What they have in common is that they pick the best of existing technologies and combine that into a product that is ahead of the competition. They don't invent new things but invent better t…

That's hard to read for a (once) die hard Pebble fan ... but it is also true.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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When I read articles like this one I always have to think about companies like Apple and Tesla. Apple didn't invent smartphones or touchscreens but they started the revolution. Tesla didn't invent EVs but started the revolution. What they have in common is that they pick the best of existing technologies and combine that into a product that is ahead of the competition. They don't invent new things but invent better t…

It's largely about timing. the iPhone didn't come out until wifi and cellular data had become widely available. Even today, a modern smartphone is a pretty boring device if you put it in airplane mode.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Pebble shutdown almost 8 years ago now and there does still not to be a replacement or alternative that can: last up to a week of battery life, do basic things like allow you to get and read notifications, and be a watch.

> last up to a week of battery life, do basic things like allow you to get and read notifications, and be a watch. Actually there is something that does that, my favorite watch: https://www.withings.com/us/en/steel-hr The battery lasts a month. The only thing which would improve it would be NFC payments, but one can't have it all. Also looks good IMO.

I lost mine unfortunately and got a "normal" smartwatch with a touchscreen and all. I don't use 90% of the features and it doesn't look nearly as class as the Steel one.
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