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The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Pebble shutdown almost 8 years ago now and there does still not to be a replacement or alternative that can: last up to a week of battery life, do basic things like allow you to get and read notifications, and be a watch.

I've got Huawei Watch GT2 and it feels like I recharge it once a month. I was honestly quite positively surprised by it, having expected having to recharge every 2-3 days.

They advertise a two week battery life so you are probably having to charge it more frequently.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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Amazfit Bip lasts 4-6 weeks on single charge with always on transreflective display with readability improving with more sunlight (opposite of useless OLED power hungry displays) and I use it exactly just to check time and read notifications, I also use it to track my sleep, step counts and heart rate, plus one of the most used features in my night apartment is using display backlight (necessary only in dark) as flas…

I ordered a Bip U, they just sent me a Bip U Pro for the same price stating it is better and the Bip U is discontinued. I cried a little because the Pro has an lcd screen. Are there really so little people that want a Pebble like experience? BTW TBH I don’t really like Amazfit/Xiaomi, their terms tell you they can get basically all your data. With Pebble I felt a sort of trust, which I also have with Apple (but sleep…

that's not really Bip though, only original Bip, Bip S and Bip Lite have transreflective displays with battery life in 4+ weeks and display readable in sunlight, any other Bip is just regular power hungry watch.

Bip U has already just regular TFT display with poor battery life, maybe a better readability than OLED, but not comparable with transreflective displays and their battery life.

As you said you can use Gadgetbridge if you don't trust them, though I find GB experience very poor always losing connection compared to their own app, not sure if you can disable internet connection for the app to keep using it which would resolve privacy issues (I use also GBoard without internet access).

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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I was still in school in the first half of the 2000s and spent a lot of my hard earned money on more or less useful and smart hardware, especially smartphones (mostly called PDA-phones in the pre-iPhone era) and with hardware keyboard. I think my first device was the HTC Blue Angel. I also had a Treo 600 and the Palm Abacus. Those were really nice devices, PalmOS was way better than Windows Mobile and worlds better than Symbian UIQ.

Fun times.

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When I read articles like this one I always have to think about companies like Apple and Tesla.

Apple didn't invent smartphones or touchscreens but they started the revolution. Tesla didn't invent EVs but started the revolution.

What they have in common is that they pick the best of existing technologies and combine that into a product that is ahead of the competition. They don't invent new things but invent better things.

For me that means you can create better products than the competition by even using old (but good) tech. What matters most is how you apply the tech.

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When I read articles like this one I always have to think about companies like Apple and Tesla. Apple didn't invent smartphones or touchscreens but they started the revolution. Tesla didn't invent EVs but started the revolution. What they have in common is that they pick the best of existing technologies and combine that into a product that is ahead of the competition. They don't invent new things but invent better t…

IMO, the original Nintendo DS made the concept of touch truly mainstream, but wasn't multitouch.

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I enjoyed my Pebble but most Garmins have all that and a whole lot more.

Do we trust them on the security, privacy side of things?

Mozilla gave them a thumbs up https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/garmin-...

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I enjoyed my Pebble but most Garmins have all that and a whole lot more.

Do we trust them on the security, privacy side of things?

Can't speak for the online side of things, but it's possible to use most Garmin watches fully offline.

I'm not talking about a reduced functionality style offline mode either; the watch computes all metrics locally, you can load OSM for navigation, copy MP3 files to it and copy GPX traces off of it.

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When I read articles like this one I always have to think about companies like Apple and Tesla. Apple didn't invent smartphones or touchscreens but they started the revolution. Tesla didn't invent EVs but started the revolution. What they have in common is that they pick the best of existing technologies and combine that into a product that is ahead of the competition. They don't invent new things but invent better t…

I think they didn't start anything, rather, they jumped in to create a tipping point.

Re: The PalmOS powered wristwatch from Fossil

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When I read articles like this one I always have to think about companies like Apple and Tesla. Apple didn't invent smartphones or touchscreens but they started the revolution. Tesla didn't invent EVs but started the revolution. What they have in common is that they pick the best of existing technologies and combine that into a product that is ahead of the competition. They don't invent new things but invent better t…

I think they didn't start anything, rather, they jumped in to create a tipping point.

I don't know if that is true.

Tesla for example did become big because they had the best range. And they still have compared to most brands.

If Tesla failed to create cars with a great range they didn't become as big as they are now.

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