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How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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I don't read any major US news site regularly.

Why is it a “wow” that you find it here, in that case?

Because hackernews is a tech website. Just a strange place for this topic to come up even if the leak might have been technological in some regard.

Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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Human institutions aren’t perfect? Throw them all out!

I feel like "impartial AI judge" is at least the top 3 most common sci-fi topics. I've yet to see a work that puts such a concept in a good light. Even if humans are prone to corruption, the theoretical point of a judicial system is to deal with the edge cases that are never clear cut.

The irony of this line of argument is that an “impartial AI judge” never would have created Roe in the first place. A computer wouldn’t conjure up a right to abortion that’s not expressly listed in the constitution from a right to privacy that’s also not expressly listed in the constitution but is instead conjured up from the “penumbras” of listed rights. Only a human would do such a thing.

Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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The Supreme Court isn't banning abortion. It's moving the issue from the federal level to the state level. It will be members of state legislatures and their governors who will be banning abortion and obviously not in all states.

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Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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If the Supremes overturn Roe vs Wade they will lose all of the legitimacy they’ve spent the last 70 years building. At that point the Court itself is fubar. It probably already is fubar since Trump anyway. Clarence Thomas and his wife’s Jan 6th involvement is just the cherry on top of a shit show. In the end they are falliable humans like the rest of us so perhaps we hold too high an opinion.

The fact that liberals peg their views of the Supreme Court’s “legitimacy” on a cluster fuck of an opinion as Roe v. Wade speaks volumes. Roe is so bad that it has long united libertarian conservatives (who hate it because it makes up a right out of thin air) and social conservatives (who had abortion on the merits). In addition to that it manages to be wildly out of line with international norms, which: 1) Generally…

A racist would make the same argument about Brown vs Board.

Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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SCOTUSblog’s Twitter has an on point take on the significance of the leak within the Court: https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1521295411545260035?t=... It’s impossible to overstate the earthquake this will cause inside the Court, in terms of the destruction of trust among the Justices and staff. This leak is the gravest, most unforgivable sin.

Who cares. The supreme court has lost all credibility and has become just another political arm.

Stupid take man. Even if they have "lost all credibility" in your eyes they still make decisions that have impact.

Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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This sort of leak, likely from a law clerk given that it was a draft opinion, is not a good development. Nobody has any loyalty to their institutions anymore. Every institutional loyalty has been subjected to team red or team blue.

You think it's a good thing that the judiciary is an ivory tower with absolutely no regard for public perception? These nine people are unelected and appointed to their positions for life. They are insulated from political pressure by the other branches of government. But it is incredibly damaging to a democratic republic if government is unaccountable to the people. Not to mention, the basic premise of THIS OPINION…

You think it's a good thing that the judiciary is an ivory tower with absolutely no regard for public perception?

Yes! That the entire point of the Supreme Court.

It’s amazing how many comments don’t even understand basic civics and how the US government is structured.

Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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Unherd of before rulings, but this is the big one. But they’re just warming up. Obergefell v. Hodges, Affirmative Action… a lot of unwinding in the next generation. Remember, both sides are the same. /s

Like Roe, Obergefell would be another decision where if the Supreme Court overruled, it would simply make the law the same as Europe: https://eclj.org/marriage/the-echr-unanimously-confirms-the-... Likewise in affirmative action. You just listed three things where the supposedly arch conservative Supreme Court is simply making our law the same as France.

Individual countries have passed laws protecting gay marriage or had restrictions struck down in the courts though.

Re: How rare is a Supreme Court breach? Very rare

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The Supreme Court isn't banning abortion. It's moving the issue from the federal level to the state level. It will be members of state legislatures and their governors who will be banning abortion and obviously not in all states.

This is such a bad faith argument I don't even know how to cover it.

People are gonna die because of this and you're here AXTUALLTIing this?

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