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Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

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Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#71
I read a similar piece a few years ago complaining about the proliferation of "everything bucket" software.

Turns out, one size doesn't fit all. Both articles read to me like someone finding a given mode of data management isn't useful for them, and then assuming theirs is the universal truth.

https://www.al3x.net/blog/2009/01/31/the-case-against-everyt...

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#72

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Obsidian is new to me, thanks for the recommendation. I see the files are local, does the app need to phone home for anything? I'd like something that will still work even if the company goes away at some point.

Nope. Works on local files. Open source. It’s one of the main reasons I went with it.

Wait. Is Obsidian open source? Any links to their code?

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#73
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Obsidian is new to me, thanks for the recommendation. I see the files are local, does the app need to phone home for anything? I'd like something that will still work even if the company goes away at some point.

have you heard about logseq? It seems to me that it is what you are looking for

Thanks! That looks great too. And it seems like I could actually use both at the same time on top of the same files in a complimentary fashion, though I'd have to test that out to make sure, and see if the use cases made it worthwhile.

I use todoist for basic task management, but it's ability to view history is virtually non existent so I don't bother attaching documents or anything related to a project there. But I use the API to compile task history, so I could integrate them as markdown files into this so I don't have to start from scratch in building things up.

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#74
The more I deal with the topic of PKM the more I'm inclined to agree. My life tends to compartmentalize into projects with related themes. The themes are the only thing I have to keep in my head, the rest is a matter of orbiting a specific approach and taking notes towards that. Arbitrarily sucking up notes from all my interactions isn't project-focused and raises the noise floor. I could be spending that time drilling and internalizing the stuff I definitely will use, so that it's as near at hand as possible.

A related aspect of this is that there's a kind of implicit scope creep to technologizing your information management, where the end point is to have "Personalized Wikipedia" or something. Well, I'm not building Wikipedia. I am compressing knowledge that is, for the most part, already in Wikipedia. Why would I do the same work twice?

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#75
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Browsing through Linking Your Thinking's YouTube channel[1] might be a good first-start. Despite appearances here, I am not a notes fetishist, so I find his videos rather approachable especially his "Start Here" video[2]. Jamie Rubin's blog series[4] is pretty good, too. I personally just create atomic (single-topic) notes, with tags in the YAML front-matter, and store them in a folder structure along the lines of th…

> I personally just create atomic (single-topic) notes, with tags in the YAML front-matter, and store them in a folder structure along the lines of the Johnny Decimal System[3]. I store checklists, procedures, howtos, concept summaries, cheatsheets, and a daily log stored in a YYYY-MM.markdown file. You must be a very organised person, any sort of Zettelkasten or knowledge-based linking system for me is too complex,…

I’m not organized at all, but this system takes me very little effort.

As a quick example, I used to do daily notes, one markdown note per day but that was too much mental overhead, so I switched to one markdown note per month with an tag between each day.

But, what works for me won’t work for everyone else.

Zettelkasten seems like inhuman, nightmarish garbage to me.

If simple notes are working for you, then stick with that!

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#76

Anyone sharing a picture of their graph, or who even pretends to navigate/look at the graph as a graph in any useful way, is definitely a bullshitter. In my experience, the graph is just a consequence that is sometimes pretty to look at, and that's it. But what is it a consequence of ? I think there is a ton of value in taking notes (probably more value than in having notes), so what I get out of Obsidian, my PKM too…

This reminds me story: during my first (failed) PhD attempt, I had a supervisor working on a knowledge graph system for education. Great! I was doing something very similar, except I had an algorithm for presenting it in a linear way. So I shared my concern that students will not be able to understand and make use of a graph representation. Like almost everything I said in the following years, it was immediately dism…

This is very interesting! Is there any public content available for further reading on your (or similar) approaches? I would be keen to try it in my Obsidian KG if so

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#77
post #51

This is mostly a set of surface-level arguments about superficial aspects of personal knowledge management. Yes, influencers pitching specific methodologies are often full of shit. Yes, network graphs are often boring and gratuitous. Yes, being overly focused on the tools used to complete tasks often gets in the way of completing tasks. None of that is super interesting. Particularly disappointing are the references…

I use the Johnny Decimal system (with Zim Wiki). In 30 years of trying, it's the best personal knowledge management I've ever used.

All these note taking tools missed out on the straightforward categorization that the Johnny Decimal provides. And it's a big one.

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#78

PKM is not bullshit; it is extremely helpful to a lot of people. This article seems a bit pointless. Yes, the graph is used to advertise a lot of these systems, but the point of the graph isn't the graph itself; it's just showing the power of backlinks. I use Obsidian and haven't looked at my graph since I started. But I use backlinks regularly. The graph is merely advertising the power of backlinks.

And it is extremely unhelpful to a lot of people aswell. It doesn't work for everyone.

That a bullshit does not make.

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#79
post #51

This is mostly a set of surface-level arguments about superficial aspects of personal knowledge management. Yes, influencers pitching specific methodologies are often full of shit. Yes, network graphs are often boring and gratuitous. Yes, being overly focused on the tools used to complete tasks often gets in the way of completing tasks. None of that is super interesting. Particularly disappointing are the references…

I agree, this blog post is too long for what he was actually trying to say, he could of gotten his point through in a few paragraphs rather than an entire page, I'm surprised that I had the patience to read all of it today.

But he _forcefully_ and _linearly_ made his prolonged point.

Re: Personal Knowledge Management Is Bullshit

#80

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Nope. Works on local files. Open source. It’s one of the main reasons I went with it.

Wait. Is Obsidian open source? Any links to their code?

Definitely thought it was open source in my brain…maybe I’m wrong though.

Now I don’t actually see the code…so my mistake. At least with markdown files you don’t have to worry about accessing your notes if anything ever happened to them though.

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