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Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by VladRussian »

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #48
michaelpinto wrote: post #43

I don't fear for Apple — I fear for the entire industry. Tonight I got my new toy and of course I wasted a few hours exploring every inch of the iPhone 4s. But the more I did it, the more empty I found myself feeling. It hit me hard that I didn't give a damn about the thing and I was still upset about Jobs. It's the very notion that there will never be another "and just one more thing". Walking home tonight I kept ra…

I would take that even a step further... The entire consumerist culture is under threat (at least in this hemisphere). Think of how excited you are when you get any new toy (car, brand new jacket, tv, shoes..) and all the euphoria and emotional investment involved in the point and time of purchase. Then you take it home, play with it for a little while and while you realize that this "thing" doesn't completely and fu…

+1 you as it is true, yet only half of it. This consumerist culture fueled technology development so it become possible for the millions of people also to get excited by, for example, seeing Hubble photos and discussing the screwdup of CERN/Gran Sasso scientists across the world - the details of SR and GR application in this case became normal topic of discussion in wide audiences.

>Apple is like the Vatican of consumerism so they are able to sustain this emotional euphoria in their customers for much much longer than most brands.

the rest of industry is following them thus driving technology development, wide accessibility and price decrease. It isn't Apple who is to be blamed that human race can move forward only through consumption economy. (Btw, before you object (if) - i come from the country that made huge attempt to move forward bypassing the consumerism and we all know the results of the experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union . "mladenkovacevic" - if you aren't too young, it sounds like you may be familiar first hand with how it looks like when country tries to bypass the consumerism driver)

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by philwelch »

zacharycohn wrote: post #35
erikpukinskis wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your reply. Like I said, all I have is my suspicions. I don't claim to know the truth. I don't think any of us really does. However, when you say "you couldn't be further from the truth", is that the result of you rewatching the video, while considering the possibility that you might, in part , as I qualified from the beginning, be seeing her differently than you'd see a man? Or is it the result of your im…

Not everything comes down to gender wars. Isn't it best to judge someone not on the color of their skin or what they have in their pants, but by the quality of their work? If their work (in this case, an interview) is bad, then it's bad. It doesn't matter if the interviewer is 14 or 40, male or female.

A fanatic can't change his mind and won't change the subject. That's why every internet argument eventually turns into a debate about the merits of some popular fanaticism, be it libertarianism, feminism, or whatever else.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by weaksauce »

rottendoubt wrote: post #54
weaksauce wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He does it because he doesn't like the preferential treatment. He loves the whole atmosphere of waiting in line and being a part of the buzz. I think he values fair more than anything; he gave away a sizable part of his money to the early employees because it wasn't fair for him to have so much while they worked hard and got so little.

Ya, I read about that and I really, really, really respect him for that. kaffeinecoma - Google "The Woz Plan" for more.

Yeah that was very impressive too but I was actually more impressed with was the fact that he gave the first 5 employees a million dollars worth of his stock.

see the second to last question in the founders at work article:

http://www.foundersatwork.com/steve-wozniak.html

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by Jgrubb »

cmelbye wrote: post #2

What an annoying reporter doing the interview. Ask an open-ended question and let him talk about it, don't constantly interrupt him and put words into his mouth...

I really wanted to hear what he had to say but couldn't listen to that video for more than 2 minutes.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by SkyMarshal »

wallflower wrote: post #5

> quintessential engineer If you have not yet read JL's interview of Woz in "Founders at Work", I encourage you to read it now. One of the best in her book. http://www.foundersatwork.com/steve-wozniak.html

Awesome interview. Great excerpt:

"When you get very very tired—and I had been up four nights all night long; Steve and I got mononucleosis—your head gets in this real creative state and it thinks of ideas that you'd normally just throw out. I came up with this idea of taking one little cheap (less than $1) part with 4 bits in it. If I spun it around at the right rate, the data that comes out of that chip looks like color TV. And I could put 16 different patterns and they all look like different colors, sort of. Would a digital signal that goes up and down actually work on a color TV the way there are sine waves and complicated calculus to develop how color TV was established in the television world? Would it work?

Man, when I actually finally put together this little circuit and put some data into memory that should show up as color and it showed up color, it was just one of those eureka moments and you're just shaking inside. It was just unbelievable. Here we had it in just a couple of chips. I had color, and then I had graphics, and then I had hi-res, and then I had paddles and sound to put games into the machine. It had dynamic memory—it had the newest right type of dynamic memory that could expand almost forever. All sorts of slots with a little mini operating system that actually worked incredibly well. The Apple II was just one of those designs. Anybody could build things to add on to it, anybody could write programs, they could write sophisticated programs, they could write it in machine language, they could write it in my Basic. So that machine, there was just nothing stopping it."

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by neworbit »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #46
syncopate wrote: post #42

How come Pixar was still able to make great movies after Steve left?

Seen Cars? Up?

Liked Cars at least better than Monsters Inc. Cars 2, meh. I keep going to see these under the guise that I'm seeing what Pixar technology is capable of, but I think it's at least as much that I like the films.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by redthrowaway »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #57
erikpukinskis wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I suspect" "my hunch" And I stand by it. Feel free to email me if you want to discuss further (erik@snowedin.net) but I'm backpedaling on nothing. And all three of them of course were thinking totally innocent thoughts. Sexism is rarely conscious these days.

I suspect that you're an ass, and my hunch is that you're smug and self righteous.

That's not particularly helpful.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by rottendoubt »

weaksauce wrote: post #64
rottendoubt wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ya, I read about that and I really, really, really respect him for that. kaffeinecoma - Google "The Woz Plan" for more.

Yeah that was very impressive too but I was actually more impressed with was the fact that he gave the first 5 employees a million dollars worth of his stock. see the second to last question in the founders at work article: http://www.foundersatwork.com/steve-wozniak.html

Just read through the whole interview. Wow. Had no idea he did all that. That is just amazing.
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