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Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by l30n4da5 »

Reubachi wrote: post #78
ianbutler wrote: post #61

Pretty please can we have the final installment of the Adam Jensen Deus Ex trilogy now. Left us hanging in the middle of what might be one of my favorite neo noir, cyberpunk series because open world story driven games were losing out back then. There's clearly an appetite now given recent releases and their success.

I think Deus Ex is done. A finish to the Jensen story would rely upon Eidos Montreal being able to produce more than one game every 5 years. Since Mankind Divided, they've released only a Guardians of the Galaxy game. MD was a great game, which was according to Eidos Montreal kneecapped by "Square rushing it out". Human Revolution was an even greater game, but still slightly kneecapped by "Square rushing it out".

> I think Deus Ex is done.

I mean, it says in the article that Eidos Montreal already confirmed their next game is a Deus Ex title, so....I dont think it is done.

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by GuB-42 »

philipov wrote: post #24
haunter wrote: post #18

>The Transaction will assist the Company in adapting to the changes underway in the global business environment by establishing a more efficient allocation of resources, which will enhance corporate value by accelerating growth in the Company’s core businesses in the digital entertainment domain. In addition, the Transaction enables the launch of new businesses by moving forward with investments in fields including b…

They need to fire their loser NFT-deluded president and let YoshiP run the company.

It is not always a good idea to let productive people run a company. Let YoshiP make games, that's what he is good at.

And have someone who knows how to make money be the president, so that he can finance YoshiP games, preferably without too much meddling into the creative process. I am not into NFTs myself but if it makes money that can be invested into good games, by all means, let them do it.

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by starburst »

DashAnimal wrote: post #74
gundamdoubleO wrote: post #22

Hopefully a new Deus Ex game might be a possibility again.

Heh. This is not to call you out because I absolutely did the same up until last week (and I'm certain a high percentage of others are the same). I've recently decided to make it a habit of reading articles first (directly from the publisher website) before even visiting Hacker News or Reddit. And after you do that, you start to realize how much discussion is based entirely around headlines. Anyway, from the article:…

And if you would've read the article that linked to that quote you would see that: "Update: This was an out-of-context quote in reference to Eidos Montreal's beginning. Shacknews and the author regret this error in reporting." [1]

[1] https://www.shacknews.com/article/130122/deus-ex-ip-will-be-...

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by oicU00 »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #36
mywittyname wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's just pandering. The markets expect to hear this line and will punish the stocks of tech companies that don't show some kind of investments into this kind of stuff. They'll make some NFT-based card game with advanced self-learning AI opponents just to tick all the right boxes.

Why? Because enough VCs/Hedge Funds have bought into the lie that is crypto or “AI”. Is this some kind of economic extortion?

Traditional values are gossip based pseudoscience. The majority will never dig deeper, so it works, but what’s more they’ll never understand the nuance so why bother? Stick with gossip.

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by mrtranscendence »

robonerd wrote: post #57
newsclues wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet cyberpunk and watch dogs aren’t close to being the same despite the similar aesthetic/theme.

They aren't cynical and bitter enough. Cyberpunk should be revolting, not appealing.

Cyberpunk was pretty revolting ... Cyberpunk 2077, that is. I kid, I kid. It actually did a good job of presenting a future that's not the slightest bit appealing, I suppose.

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by Shadonototra »

oneoff786 wrote: post #4

The newer tomb raider games are the most AAA games I’ve ever seen. Not saying they’re good, or bad, but every other moment is a handcrafted moment. It sort of works. A lot of it is platforming through crumbling environments. Which is pretty cool. It’s sort of overdone too. SquareEnix felt legendary growing up.

SquareSoft was great, when they merged with Enix to form SquareEnix is when things started to go wrong

People mix both SquareSoft's success and Enix and their merge

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by mwaitjmp »

trey-jones wrote: post #81
robonerd wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The N64 controller did Nintendo no favors, particularly with games like Goldeneye. The original playstation controller didn't stand the test of time either, but once the analog sticks were added it became an instant classic.

The controller was weird then and is even weirder in hindsight but as I recall: 1. This was the first console controller with any analog stick at all. 2. Goldeneye, though it controls differently to modern shooters, was an excellent use of the single stick at the time. You could also use dual sticks by using two controllers at once - groundbreaking! 3. The Z-button was the first trigger-style button on console contro…

The wii u tablet controller is actually pretty comfortable to use.

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by mrtranscendence »

mehlmao wrote: post #59
WillPostForFood wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The three Crystal Dynamics Tomb Raider games sold 38 million units, so probably something like a billion in revenue. Plus whatever value in Film/TV income, plus some decent mobile games. They can probably recoup the cost with effective management of Tomb Raider, and then the other IP is where they can mine for some value and make the deal look good. They got two great AAA studios with Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montr…

The newer Tomb Raider games were all very heavily discounted soon after launch. I think I paid ~$10 for each of them within a year of them coming out.

Hell, the Epic store gave them all away free not that long ago.

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by poulpy123 »

haunter wrote: post #18

>The Transaction will assist the Company in adapting to the changes underway in the global business environment by establishing a more efficient allocation of resources, which will enhance corporate value by accelerating growth in the Company’s core businesses in the digital entertainment domain. In addition, the Transaction enables the launch of new businesses by moving forward with investments in fields including b…

That read like a parody

Re: Square-Enix sells all of its Western game studios and their games to Embracer

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Post by Sakos »

Reubachi wrote: post #78
ianbutler wrote: post #61

Pretty please can we have the final installment of the Adam Jensen Deus Ex trilogy now. Left us hanging in the middle of what might be one of my favorite neo noir, cyberpunk series because open world story driven games were losing out back then. There's clearly an appetite now given recent releases and their success.

I think Deus Ex is done. A finish to the Jensen story would rely upon Eidos Montreal being able to produce more than one game every 5 years. Since Mankind Divided, they've released only a Guardians of the Galaxy game. MD was a great game, which was according to Eidos Montreal kneecapped by "Square rushing it out". Human Revolution was an even greater game, but still slightly kneecapped by "Square rushing it out".

Why would Embracer buy Deus Ex if they had no intention of doing anything with it? They're not EA.
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