Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challenged findings
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#2In the corporate world, just like government funded research, science is only science if it aligns with the desires of its funding source unfortunately.
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#3What a way to bias the network.
Re: Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challenged findings
#4What really kills me is that Google claimed previous papers weren't up to their standard, but then ended up citing them in later papers that they've had press events around. It's really unfortunate that so much of our science is being done at large companies rather than universities, since the companies have a bias towards their bottom line which keeps them from publishing things that might damage that.
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#5I think this a challenge that seems pretty obvious as scientists working for for profit organizations that don’t have binding ethical frameworks aren’t really free to pursue truth.
Just like you wouldn’t expect an Exxon staff scientist to be free to publish a paper independent of Exxon.
I think that people who want to properly practice science should avoid working for corporations. Academia and government aren’t completely free, but I think there would be laws broken if someone was fired over the contents of their peer reviewed paper.
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#6In the corporate world, just like government funded research, science is only science if it aligns with the desires of its funding source unfortunately.
I never experienced anything like this during the course of my government funded research. Nor did I hear of anyone else experiencing anything like this. Of course, your topic area has to align with government funders’ interests… but in my experience the conclusions do not.
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#7What really kills me is that Google claimed previous papers weren't up to their standard, but then ended up citing them in later papers that they've had press events around. It's really unfortunate that so much of our science is being done at large companies rather than universities, since the companies have a bias towards their bottom line which keeps them from publishing things that might damage that.
Which papers are you referring to?
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#8What really kills me is that Google claimed previous papers weren't up to their standard, but then ended up citing them in later papers that they've had press events around. It's really unfortunate that so much of our science is being done at large companies rather than universities, since the companies have a bias towards their bottom line which keeps them from publishing things that might damage that.
But...but...there's nothing private investors and the free market can't do!
Seriously, who thought that science for profit would net the best results for the collective benefit?
You take science but replace truth with profit as the ultimate objective. I'm sure that's going to work well.
The day we stop seeking profit in endeavors that can only be pursued properly at a complete economic loss, we're going to solve so many problems at once.
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Re: Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challenged findings
#10What really kills me is that Google claimed previous papers weren't up to their standard, but then ended up citing them in later papers that they've had press events around. It's really unfortunate that so much of our science is being done at large companies rather than universities, since the companies have a bias towards their bottom line which keeps them from publishing things that might damage that.
Universities have their own biases as well --whether it's to pad one's CV, the PI's CV, or whatever, but they are also not free from interference against 'pure' research.
There is a lot of "garbage" research that happens at universities. Yes, we do expect quite a bit of research to be dead-ends --that's the nature of research, but there is a lot of research that is knowingly fraudulent or uses very suspect data and or methodology.