Anyone with P1 Gen 2 had issues with the built_in speakers? I can only get the right-sided speaker to work even after replacing them.
Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#192Why they have this bad touchpads is beyond me. Then it would be better to ditch them completely and position the keyboard nearer to the user. Like tho good Linux support though.
I have a ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 1 and the trackpad works great in Manjaro and Windows. I donno what the post is complaining about.
Many Synaptic touchpads don't have proper gesture support in X11. They work out of the box in Wayland, but on X11 gestures are meh even if you can get them to work. You can use a tool to execute commands on certain gestures, but you don't get the immediate response or the ability to pause halfway through.
The author bought a model that can come with an Nvidia GPU so I'm guessing they might be on X11. That could explain their problems.
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#193Based on all the comments on HN about how great Thinkpads are supposed to be with Linux, I bought an X1-Extreme some time ago.
From my experience, Linux support for Lenovo devices is terrible.
ACPI, power management, and UEFI are consistently causing problems. Grub has an issue with the 4K display, causing it to render at about 1 FPS. The dual-GPU (Intel and nVidia) situation is unworkable under Linux. Suspend on lid close is unpredictable. The fingerprint reader has never worked, and the driver for the TPM appears unfinished business under Linux. The battery life under Linux is about half of what you can expect from Windows.
My setup with the AN40 Thunderbolt dock probably makes it worse, the AN40 (even under Windows) is a terrible buggy mess, after about 10 firmware updates it is now somewhat usable under Linux. Resume from stand-by is a gamble each morning. Prepare to reboot and power-cycle often if you want to run this dock under Linux. fwupd does not work for all peripherals (such as the TB dock), so you'll often need Windows to perform firmware updates.
Maybe I could solve some of this stuff if I'd spend some time on it, I don't know. I do know that as long as I run Linux as my daily driver, my next laptop won't be a Lenovo.
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#194> Display: 15.6” FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS ugh :(
In my opinion anything higher resolution on a screen that size is just wasted GPU power. The author mainly uses the laptop on a stand, attached to a monitor, from what I can tell from the pictures so they're likely even further away from the screen than normal laptop users.
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#195I find it rather peculiar that tech folks think a plastic laptop is good build quality considering what we have from Apple and others. I wish more linux laptops had the build quality and support of macbooks. This isn't a rant from an Apple fan, this is a rant from a laptop fan. ThinkPad's aren't good laptops despite what the guy with the pocket protector says. They are flimsy and feel cheap. They still have 20th cent…
Are you even aware that most of the people on this planet either can't afford Apple or just don't want to throw away so much money for fancy design quirks?
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#196Generally great machines for Linux. Just a PSA from a X1E gen2 owner: Do NOT get the NVidia GPU, do NOT get the fastest CPU and most importantly: do NOT opt for the 4k screen. With 1080p and Intel GPU it is a good, even great laptop with ok battery life (if you can look over the touchpad). Wonderful keyboard, good Linux support (even fingerprint reader works). But just as with the last Intel macbook, the GPU, 10th ge…
If have one those, without the 4k screen. No complaints so far, even GPU heavy games like the early versions of Battletech worked fine, battery life under gaming conditions is somewhere between 2 and 4 hours. Non-gaming around 4 to 6 hours. With the Intel GPU deactivated, getting external screens working while the machine was in hybrid mode was too much of a pain. After all I wanted it for the nVidia GPU.
Ubuntu is working right out of the box, I didn't try the finger print reader so. I prefer something I know to unlock over something I have.
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#197Why they have this bad touchpads is beyond me. Then it would be better to ditch them completely and position the keyboard nearer to the user. Like tho good Linux support though.
I have a P53 as my personal device and trackpad works great, but the P15s for work is garbage. It jumps all over the place at times and even feels worse as in not smooth enough.
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#198Eh, I have been using latest gen x1 carbon for last year or so that I got from work and recently bough a p15 gen1 for some personal windows usage. I have to say, both machines are terrible. X1 is pretty slow (some 4c i7 with basic iGPU) - running dual 4k displays, webex and similar apps is pretty slow, even scrolling websites is not smooth quite often. Also, fan never turns off and battery life is well, not great. P1…
Also have P15 from work and trackpad is terrible. I think it's a P15 thing as my P53 works well.
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#199Based on all the comments on HN about how great Thinkpads are supposed to be with Linux, I bought an X1-Extreme some time ago. From my experience, Linux support for Lenovo devices is terrible. ACPI, power management, and UEFI are consistently causing problems. Grub has an issue with the 4K display, causing it to render at about 1 FPS. The dual-GPU (Intel and nVidia) situation is unworkable under Linux. Suspend on lid…
Last time I got a new laptop, I simply ordered a Lenovo Thinkpad (X1 Carbon, not Extreme) with Linux pre-installed. I am past where I want to tinker to get the hardware and software working together, but do prefer Linux as my daily driver. I haven't had any issues with it, but I also got a relatively simple setup. I've ordered a Linux pre-installed Dell in the past with similar fine results.
Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
From June last year until February this year, I was running the stock Kubuntu 20.04 kernel on a ThinkPad T14 with no thermal throttling or power limits. I would often have a few Docker containers running, a JetBrains editor (Java, shudder), Firefox with some addons and well over 100 open tabs, Chrome with the devtools open, MS Teams, Thunderbird, and some smaller apps such as Keepass, Telegram, Anki, a dozen terminal…
> RAM (I think only 8 GiB, actually) or CPU (I don't even remember which Intel CPU it had Sounds like you had one of the cheaper T14's, it's likely you didn't run into any power limits due to that. 1080p screen as well, I presume? Kubuntu 20.04 and its kernel version certainly throttle power on the higher-end T14's I've seen. If that's lifted then they throttle thermally, unless you manually force both cooling and po…
I do believe that is was a 1080 screen. I almost never used it without an auxiliary monitor (mostly two aux monitors), I would have been just as happy with a desktop. Alas, the company only provided laptops.