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Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by nspattak »

intsunny wrote: post #97

I've been holding off on purchasing a new Lenovo laptop. Shortly Lenovo will start shipping latops with the new generation AMD Ryzen mobile chips that have RDNA 2 GPUs. [0][1] This is a real game changer. The amount of power and open source VULKAN friendliness is going to be incredible. I look forward to being able to do container work, and emulate Gamecube games all on a single Linux machine. [0] https://www.aroged.…

I have been looking for one but unfortunately 95% of lenovos with ryzen have soldered ram which i a hard no for me :(

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by tommiegannert »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #39
tommiegannert wrote: post #4

> Lenovo is famous for their TrackPoint (that little red thing on the keyboard), but I am not sure if I’ll take the time to learn using it. Who's still using this? I removed the red rubber because it was leaving residue on my screen.

It's the reason I'm locked into ThinkPads and never buy other laptops, even if I might prefer them in other respects. It's immensely better (for me) than a trackpad. Faster, less tiring and more precise. To the point that for most task, I won't ever bother to take the mouse out of the bag.

> tiring

Ah, thanks. I have the opposite reaction. It's too stiff, so my finger tip gets tired after a while. The friction against the pad is also tiring, but not as badly.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by XorNot »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #127
ainiriand wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aluminum for me is a big no-no considering that I always get static discharge from them.

I also distinctly remember the unnerving feeling of getting a tingling sensation on my wrists when having a macboook pro charging connecting to mains. I have only used them when clients specifically request it, but otherwise connect them to a workstation of my choice.

Oh, I'm glad I'm not the only person who noticed this - several job laptops (macbooks) have definitely done this to me as well. It's subtle, like your wrist is sticky or being tapped rapidly, but the moment you yank the mains power out from the machine it goes away. Very unsettling (and escalates to painful at times).

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by amanzi »

pooper wrote: post #137
halotrope wrote: post #110

Generally great machines for Linux. Just a PSA from a X1E gen2 owner: Do NOT get the NVidia GPU, do NOT get the fastest CPU and most importantly: do NOT opt for the 4k screen. With 1080p and Intel GPU it is a good, even great laptop with ok battery life (if you can look over the touchpad). Wonderful keyboard, good Linux support (even fingerprint reader works). But just as with the last Intel macbook, the GPU, 10th ge…

> Wonderful keyboard, good Linux support (even fingerprint reader works). I am on a T490s with Fedora now (this machine). Any tips on how you got the fingerprint sensor to work? $ cat /etc/os-release NAME="Fedora Linux" VERSION="35 (Workstation Edition)" ID=fedora VERSION_ID=35 VERSION_CODENAME="" PLATFORM_ID="platform:f35" PRETTY_NAME="Fedora Linux 35 (Workstation Edition)" ANSI_COLOR="0;38;2;60;110;180" LOGO=fedora…

I have a T480 and used the following to get the fingerprint sensor to work: https://github.com/uunicorn/python-validity

I'm using Pop_OS (Ubuntu-based), but they also have instructions for Fedora.

One thing I found on Pop_OS is that I didn't need to use `fprintd-enroll` because after installing the package I was able to use the GUI in my user account settings to enrol my fingerprints.

Hope that helps.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by doctor_lollipop »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #104
scrlk wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will never understand the fetishisation of metal as a "premium" feeling material - if anything, it's impractical for a laptop. (conducts heat so can be uncomfortable to use on your lap if the thermal solution is poorly designed; dents/bends when dropped; probably harder for RF/antenna design...) It's the same reason why phones turned in to "premium" glass and metal sandwiches that people immediately slap in to a ch…

I worked for Nokia. The Lumias had great hardware. And even Windows Phone wasn't that bad. If they'd bothered doubling down on Meego just when Google was still struggling with making Android usable, fast, and not an enormous mess, they would have had a chance. Instead they dumped it in favor of Symbian and later Windows Phone. MS bought the remains of Nokia, mismanaged it, and then cancelled the whole thing.

I'm still using my N9, great little phone...

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by golergka »

faeriechangling wrote: post #59
gabereiser wrote: post #45

I find it rather peculiar that tech folks think a plastic laptop is good build quality considering what we have from Apple and others. I wish more linux laptops had the build quality and support of macbooks. This isn't a rant from an Apple fan, this is a rant from a laptop fan. ThinkPad's aren't good laptops despite what the guy with the pocket protector says. They are flimsy and feel cheap. They still have 20th cent…

I make a distinction between "Plastic" and "Carbon Fibre Reinforced Polymer with a magnesium roll cage" that this laptop uses. We don't think an aluminium bike is better than a carbon fibre bike, so why is an aluminium laptop better than a carbon fibre laptop? I mean aluminium has some nice advantages like heat dissipation but CFRP allows for much lighter laptops. If anything I prefer CRFP because of the weight advan…

> why is an aluminium laptop better than a carbon fibre laptop?

It looks nice.

Which is completely subjective, of course, and purely about aesthetics. But for a personal item like a laptop, I think aesthetics are much more important than HN comments would let you believe.

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Post by dialogbox »

plafl wrote: post #67
faeriechangling wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I owned a Mac laptop a decade ago, I always had my laptop positioned near a power outlet. When I got laptops with more battery life, the charger is now used to charge the laptop overnight so I can use it throughout the next day. If you never use your battery, why own a laptop at all? Why not buy a Mac mini or an iMac?

> If you never use your battery, why own a laptop at all? Why not buy a Mac mini or an iMac? Sometimes I need to move, for example while travelling, otherwise I would use a desktop computer.

> This is a usually cited concern for so many people and I'm curious to know why because I rarely unplug my laptop, like most people I know.

> Sometimes I need to move, for example while travelling, otherwise I would use a desktop computer.

People travels often. I do everyday.

I have one corp laptop and I don't have charger in my home. I don't want to have one more power brick for my 16 inch M1 macbook so I usually borrow a line from my wife's M1 Macbook Air but that rarely happens like only during weekend.

After switching to M1, I feel very safe to be unplugged. Even if I need to charge it, some 20W level of phone chargers can charge my mac while I'm using it. This guy only uses around 15~20W even with tons of chrome tabs + zoom meeting. It is using 9W ATM.

This is really a game changer for me.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by tazjin »

intsunny wrote: post #97

I've been holding off on purchasing a new Lenovo laptop. Shortly Lenovo will start shipping latops with the new generation AMD Ryzen mobile chips that have RDNA 2 GPUs. [0][1] This is a real game changer. The amount of power and open source VULKAN friendliness is going to be incredible. I look forward to being able to do container work, and emulate Gamecube games all on a single Linux machine. [0] https://www.aroged.…

I have an AMD Thinkpad (X13 AMD 2nd gen) and it's one of the most frustrating devices I've had in years. Linux support is superficially fine, but in continuous use lots of tiny, annoying incompatibilities (and sometimes pretty significant impairments) show up.

There's a set of known hardware issues (e.g. unable to resume from suspend, USB ports stop working until hardware reset is performed through the pinhole, ...) and I've been experiencing _all_ of them regularly. Never had these kinds of issues with an Intel machine (as they have much more battle-tested hardware).

I'd recommend to only buy an AMD laptop if you have a fallback and can afford to treat it more as a tinkering toy type thing. Note that some of the hardware issues also affect other OSes than Linux.

Personally I'm getting rid of this thing in favour of an Intel machine again.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Post by ho_schi »

intsunny wrote: post #97

I've been holding off on purchasing a new Lenovo laptop. Shortly Lenovo will start shipping latops with the new generation AMD Ryzen mobile chips that have RDNA 2 GPUs. [0][1] This is a real game changer. The amount of power and open source VULKAN friendliness is going to be incredible. I look forward to being able to do container work, and emulate Gamecube games all on a single Linux machine. [0] https://www.aroged.…

I'm also waiting for the X13 Gen3 AMD becoming available, with RNDA2. Shall work well with Archlinux, enough performance for programming (GCC), playing (CSGO) and very portable. A lot better in a backpack on a roadbike or while traveling (plane, train).

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-announces-the-ThinkPad-...

Using privately a X220 and begin mobile with it is just remains a nice device. Standard keyboard, standard performance and pleasure to carry around without worries.

PS: I'm surprised that Lenovo still don't give users a "quick start manual" explaining how to use the TrackPoint. It is a game changer for everyone capable of touch-typing. Why leave a good keyboard when your fingertips can remain there? I don't blame the users here. Apple contrary uses video advertisements as hidden "introducton guide" to buyers. Remember when IBM just didn't build in TrackPads? The area was used a palm-rest.

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