Those who do not understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it…
Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
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Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#42The inflow of new engineers which are not so familiar with traditional tools like a basic terminal and a text editor. That was all which was needed to write software. Most of the software stack was quite flat back then. Today, the way everyone starts is by installing a bunch of tools, frameworks and an IDE to navigate through those tools. Even a simple web page requires to install 100MBs of dependencies. Trying to le…
> The inflow of new engineers which are not so familiar with traditional tools like a basic terminal and a text editor.
I think many people start learning to use these tools at the same time they learn to program, I know I did. You expect junior devs to be terminal wizards?
> Even a simple web page requires to install 100MBs of dependencies.
No it doesn't? Some tooling requires lots of dependencies, but it's still very possible to open a text editor and spin up a web page.
Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#43Those who do not understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it…
Unix is shite. Typing arcane commands in the terminal only illustrates the IQ (low) of those that wrote it!
Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#44Same with "MLOps" tools... same with every niche, bunch of useless tools just trying to grab some market. But this is not a recent thing, every time the current thing gets flooded with crap ideas competing for some market share (ie longtail theory). Sometimes the old ideas are just rebuilt, nocode is just RAD with different branding, event sourcing is just ESB, microservices is basically SOA... What is scary that act…
I like the part " _microservices is basically SOA_ " , want to say that loud so many times myself :)
Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#45Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#46Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#47For market no idea. For electron, because it is the only reasonable multi platform UI platform out there. I do not like that fact but it is true. For why, because the terminal protocol is atrocious, mix data with control signalling, mix together multiple layers making it really hard to extend it, is stuck emulating an emulator of a physical device from the 70s, is bursting at the seams and is blocking dozens of possi…
> For electron, because it is the only reasonable multi platform UI platform out there. I do not like that fact but it is true.
Why do people constantly repeat this? Did we all forget about Qt? Did Qt do such a good job of driving people away from it?
Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#48Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#49What is the problem with that ? I've tried both warp.dev and fig.io, except thier annoying telementry events, I love them both. Developers use terminals frequently, and there have been no major improvements in terminal software in the last few years. I'd be happy to see more terminals developed because they are useful. I would rather encourage them than discourage it
I‘d even go as far as to say there have been no major improvements in 30 years.
Re: Ask HN: Why are there so many companies trying to reinvent the terminal (badly)?
#50For market no idea. For electron, because it is the only reasonable multi platform UI platform out there. I do not like that fact but it is true. For why, because the terminal protocol is atrocious, mix data with control signalling, mix together multiple layers making it really hard to extend it, is stuck emulating an emulator of a physical device from the 70s, is bursting at the seams and is blocking dozens of possi…
> For electron, because it is the only reasonable multi platform UI platform out there.
Swing.