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Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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> 7-9 hours of typing, browsing and some programming. > 3-4 hours of video/audio conferencing or other CPU intensive tasks. This is one of the primary reasons I can't even consider moving away from an M1 Mac. I used to love ThinkPads but not being able to use the machine for 10+ hours without charger is a dealbreaker in 2022.

This is a usually cited concern for so many people and I'm curious to know why because I rarely unplug my laptop, like most people I know.

When I owned a Mac laptop a decade ago, I always had my laptop positioned near a power outlet.

When I got laptops with more battery life, the charger is now used to charge the laptop overnight so I can use it throughout the next day.

If you never use your battery, why own a laptop at all? Why not buy a Mac mini or an iMac?

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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> 7-9 hours of typing, browsing and some programming. > 3-4 hours of video/audio conferencing or other CPU intensive tasks. This is one of the primary reasons I can't even consider moving away from an M1 Mac. I used to love ThinkPads but not being able to use the machine for 10+ hours without charger is a dealbreaker in 2022.

I wonder what the battery life is like using windows on the same machine.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Why they have this bad touchpads is beyond me. Then it would be better to ditch them completely and position the keyboard nearer to the user. Like tho good Linux support though.

My work ThinkPad (Carbon X1 gen 8)'s touchpad is fine. The gestures work fine with Fedora. The touchpad wasn't a downgrade after coming from a work MBP running OSX.

In some ways it's better because I can use 3 finger click to close tabs and open links in new tabs.

Unlike in the article, I'm not a fan of the fingerprint reader. It rarely recognises me and (at least on fedora) I need to try it a few times before it will fall back to letting me type my password.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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What an odd entry. Looking at the specs, this is one horrible device. What is the point of promoting this old brick featuring one of the worst CPUs ever released? If you're in the Intel camp, there are much better choices using 12th gen processors

My slick 5800h Lenovo laptop also runs Linux but is faster, lighter, cuter, and simply better in every respect. Battery lasts over 15 hours easily, depending on display brightness.

Seriously, I can't stress enough how bad this specific hardware is.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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I find it rather peculiar that tech folks think a plastic laptop is good build quality considering what we have from Apple and others. I wish more linux laptops had the build quality and support of macbooks. This isn't a rant from an Apple fan, this is a rant from a laptop fan. ThinkPad's aren't good laptops despite what the guy with the pocket protector says. They are flimsy and feel cheap. They still have 20th cent…

proper thinkpads have strenghtened construction with metal inside and plastic in general is better comfort wise regarding how hot it can get compared to better heat conducting metal

They are in no way flimsy, you will much easier damage internal components of nany Mac over Thinkpad T series.

but yes, they won't win any beauty contest - if you want reliable workhorse which is relatively ugly go for Thinkpad T series, if you want laptop for showing off go for Mac and other "brands"

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Why does GPU get a green dot (ie: "good") if the reviewer opted for the non-NVIDIA model and doesn't require GPU for their workload? The biggest issue I had with the Gen2 (aside from the atrocious trackpad) was the fact that with the GPU enabled, battery life was miserable, with it disabled HDMI didn't work (no external monitor!) and switching modes required a restart of Xorg, unless you spend a week trying to figure out arcane bullshittery. I say this as a Linux veteran who currently runs MX Linux on a MacBook pro 2015: the gen2 was terrible for me.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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I find it rather peculiar that tech folks think a plastic laptop is good build quality considering what we have from Apple and others. I wish more linux laptops had the build quality and support of macbooks. This isn't a rant from an Apple fan, this is a rant from a laptop fan. ThinkPad's aren't good laptops despite what the guy with the pocket protector says. They are flimsy and feel cheap. They still have 20th cent…

> I wish more linux laptops had the build quality and support of macbooks.

Have you considered Dell's XPS line[0] (or their business equivalent, the Precision 55XX/57XX line)?

For a well-built notebook rivalling/exceeding the MacBook Pros, there's always the Precision 75XX/77XX line[1].

The new Precisions announced just a week ago with Intel Alder Lake CPUs[2] now have 16:10 displays, OLED, but still retain 'modern' features (some I consider regressions, like moving from dedicated trackpad buttons to a 'clickpad'). These are the notebooks with the new 'CAMM' memory modules.

Dell always has options for RHEL/Ubuntu from the factory, and these notebooks also run other distributions (I have a Precision 7560 running Windows 10/Arch) very well.

[0]: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebo...

[1]: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebo...

[2]: https://www.windowscentral.com/dell-precision-7770-7670-anno...

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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I find it rather peculiar that tech folks think a plastic laptop is good build quality considering what we have from Apple and others. I wish more linux laptops had the build quality and support of macbooks. This isn't a rant from an Apple fan, this is a rant from a laptop fan. ThinkPad's aren't good laptops despite what the guy with the pocket protector says. They are flimsy and feel cheap. They still have 20th cent…

I make a distinction between "Plastic" and "Carbon Fibre Reinforced Polymer with a magnesium roll cage" that this laptop uses.

We don't think an aluminium bike is better than a carbon fibre bike, so why is an aluminium laptop better than a carbon fibre laptop? I mean aluminium has some nice advantages like heat dissipation but CFRP allows for much lighter laptops. If anything I prefer CRFP because of the weight advantages and because it's more of a "sleeper" material when laptops are VERY tempting for thieves.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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I find it rather peculiar that tech folks think a plastic laptop is good build quality considering what we have from Apple and others. I wish more linux laptops had the build quality and support of macbooks. This isn't a rant from an Apple fan, this is a rant from a laptop fan. ThinkPad's aren't good laptops despite what the guy with the pocket protector says. They are flimsy and feel cheap. They still have 20th cent…

I exclusively used MacBooks from 2012 to 2018 or something like that, before switching to a Carbon X1, and could never switch back. None of the laptops from Apple I had could actually be used from my lap, which is where I want to use my laptop, because of the heat coming from the bottom of the MacBooks. So I'm quite happy with plastic/softer materials rather than whatever metal material Apple uses.
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