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Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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> Lenovo is famous for their TrackPoint (that little red thing on the keyboard), but I am not sure if I’ll take the time to learn using it. Who's still using this? I removed the red rubber because it was leaving residue on my screen.

I refuse to buy a laptop without a trackpoint (which in practice means ThinkPads only).

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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For developers, going with Intel only (no Nvidia discrete card) is the most sensible choice. I have P15 and it's riddled with issues - not that they are not solvable, but it needs workarounds, restarts of X (logout/login), or running discrete only (which eats battery). The problem is they don't make the larger workstation laptops with Intel only.

all-amd systems are a solid alternative as well. if you only have an igpu, it's effectively the same experience as an all-intel system. if you additionally have an amd dgpu, offloading work to it is as simple as setting DRI_PRIME=1 in the target process environment

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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I have two of these machines. They are very nice.

Actually, one is an X1 Extreme Gen 3, and the other is a P1 Gen 3. Same machine with different GPUs.

My work provided me with the X1E with Ubuntu preinstalled (that is our standard dev environment). But I found the hardware support very unsatisfactory.

I use a specific display configuration. Three monitors in total: the ThinkPad's 4K display, with a 24" 4K display above it, and a second 24" 4K display to the left in portrait mode.

With Linux on the ThinkPad, I never got that to work. The best I could do was a single external monitor, not both of my external monitors plus the internal.

And I never got any of my Bluetooth headsets to work at all: Apple AirPods, Plantronics, and a couple of no-name brands. They all paired fine as headphones, but the microphones never worked.

I noticed that this work ThinkPad had a Windows license sticker on the bottom, so I figured what the heck, let's see what happens if I reinstall Windows.

The triple monitor config worked with no hitches. The AirPods worked fine.

So I set up a VMware virtual machine and run our dev environment inside that. Now everything works great! (I also tried VirtualBox but found the display responsiveness much better in VMware.)

Once this was sorted out, I was so happy with the machine that I bought a matching P1 for my new personal machine. (Regarding P1 vs. X1 Extreme, I just went with availability: Lenovo was out of stock on the X1E's but had a nicely configured P1 ready to ship.)

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

#14

> Lenovo is famous for their TrackPoint (that little red thing on the keyboard), but I am not sure if I’ll take the time to learn using it. Who's still using this? I removed the red rubber because it was leaving residue on my screen.

It is the only thing that prevents me of getting any other laptops. Three mouse buttons and the trackpoint right next to the keyboard is the perfect way of using a laptop for me.

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> 7-9 hours of typing, browsing and some programming. > 3-4 hours of video/audio conferencing or other CPU intensive tasks. This is one of the primary reasons I can't even consider moving away from an M1 Mac. I used to love ThinkPads but not being able to use the machine for 10+ hours without charger is a dealbreaker in 2022.

Same here. Although for some projects lately that needed quick a bit of docker infra running, I found battery life dropping to 7-9 hours for the m1 and then my x220 (which doesn’t notice docker much unlike the m1) performs better with it’s 11+ hours.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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> Lenovo is famous for their TrackPoint (that little red thing on the keyboard), but I am not sure if I’ll take the time to learn using it. Who's still using this? I removed the red rubber because it was leaving residue on my screen.

Me; I do not like trackpads; take up space and are not as efficient for me.

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post #10

> 7-9 hours of typing, browsing and some programming. > 3-4 hours of video/audio conferencing or other CPU intensive tasks. This is one of the primary reasons I can't even consider moving away from an M1 Mac. I used to love ThinkPads but not being able to use the machine for 10+ hours without charger is a dealbreaker in 2022.

Not having good linux support is a deal breaker for me.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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post #10

> 7-9 hours of typing, browsing and some programming. > 3-4 hours of video/audio conferencing or other CPU intensive tasks. This is one of the primary reasons I can't even consider moving away from an M1 Mac. I used to love ThinkPads but not being able to use the machine for 10+ hours without charger is a dealbreaker in 2022.

This is a usually cited concern for so many people and I'm curious to know why because I rarely unplug my laptop, like most people I know.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

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For developers, going with Intel only (no Nvidia discrete card) is the most sensible choice. I have P15 and it's riddled with issues - not that they are not solvable, but it needs workarounds, restarts of X (logout/login), or running discrete only (which eats battery). The problem is they don't make the larger workstation laptops with Intel only.

Huh, I didn't know you could force to use discrete GPU only on the P15. I am considering switching to this laptop from T480, where this doesn't seem possible.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen3 Review – with Linux

#20

> Lenovo is famous for their TrackPoint (that little red thing on the keyboard), but I am not sure if I’ll take the time to learn using it. Who's still using this? I removed the red rubber because it was leaving residue on my screen.

Me; it's far superior to anything outside of a mouse.

And yes, I have a MacBook M1 (I didn't realize how poor the support was for Linux by the time the return window closed).

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