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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by Emma_Goldman »

bscheckerhere wrote: post #276
omginternets wrote: post #160

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Again, I recognize the injustice you are facing. But surely you can recognize that there are important, meaningful differences with respect to racial discrimination? To put it differently: I object to your sense of proportion.

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Being a chattel slave is orders of magnitude worse than being short. That you are not able to see that suggests that, perhaps, your personal struggles and disappointments are warping your judgement. You are 'catastrophising'.

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Post by scotty79 »

oynqr wrote: post #575
Gigachad wrote: post #322

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This kind of stuff is pretty widespread. One of the major dating sites published a stat showing woman ranked 80% of men as below average attractiveness while men ranked 50% of woman as bellow average. They had to pull the post because it was explosive. I assume no tech company will ever post stats on the data they have showing some kind of meaningful social observation again.

That was OKCupid, why they actually published it is beyond me.

Why wouldn't they?

They published a lot of very interesting anonymized stats back then.

Would you rather not know?

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Post by guskel »

claytongulick wrote: post #141
aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

I'm somewhere between 5' 7" and 5' 8". I've experienced the "filter" issue with online dating, but my conclusions are entirely different. I really don't mind it, in fact I appreciate it. Anyone who would filter me out over something as shallow as height would undoubtedly be an extraordinarily poor match for me. I prefer quality over quantity. As to the "die alone" thing - that seems a bit grim. I'm 46, since age 14 w…

It’s a very good thing to get some early wins in your youth. The longer it takes to start dating, the harder it becomes.

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Post by guskel »

ss108 wrote: post #489
aortega wrote: post #149

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I knew there would be answers of the style 'I'm short and Im great with girls' yes, but you are only a data point. I'm talking here of statistics, and in general short guys have it bad, according to online dating sites. You can easily do an experiment with a fake profile and see it yourself.

You're missing the point; not all of those guys are engaging in the kinds of self-improvement and development that could help them have experiences similar to the person to whom you are responding. For an individual short guy, the quantitative info out there is only detrimental. At best, it's useless. They need a qualitative focus.

Many are and they still struggle greatly.

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Post by chii »

Tao332 wrote: post #451
est31 wrote: post #259

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A lot of men who say they don't like makeup actually do like it without knowing. They just know so little about the makeup world that they don't recognize the "natural" look (while still preferring it). So I would take statements like "I don't like makeup" with a grain of salt, and parse them as "I like the natural look but don't like strong makeup" (what you said basically). Which isn't an uncommon preference at all…

It's pretty sly when you think about it, because these men are being lied to about what "no makeup" looks like. Who could tell what the real preferences are for someone lied to in such a way? The social experiments we are running on each other are utterly corrupted.

> these men are being lied to about what "no makeup" looks like.

or the women knows what men are after - which is naturally good looks, and using any and all methods to achieve that look. They are so successful that the men don't notice it is artificial.

So can you argue that it is the fault of men for wanting "natural beauty"? Or the fault of the women for trying?

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Post by aortega »

Jensson wrote: post #431
reverend_gonzo wrote: post #389

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> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. This is his claim. I call bullshit.

The other great factor for dating success for men is income. You can offset being short by earning a lot of money. Since you are here on HN I assume you earn way more than average Americans. Each inch of height corresponds to about $25k of yearly income on the attractiveness scale. Do the math, are you still below average? Note that income isn't just what you earn, but what you can be expected to earn in the future,…

It's the same as saying 'You can offset being short by being a rock star' yes, I suppose you could.

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Post by chii »

jimbob45 wrote: post #436
fleddr wrote: post #134

"a 2006 study on online dating found that a man who is 5'6'' needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6' tall and only makes $62,500 a year." I guess I appreciate the brutal honesty. Wealth and height. And not to forget social status, as one woman in the linked article explained how she broke up with a short guy because of what others (might) think of it. Not a word is wasted on a…

> The female version is equally disturbing but different. I've never met or talked to a man that finds fake boobs, duck lips, botox, fake bums, fake tans, an inch of makeup in any remote way attractive, or a "selector" Tall women face exactly the same issue as short men. HN is overwhelmingly made, though, and has failed to make that connection.

> Tall women face exactly the same issue as short men.

i highly doubt so. Tall women might face _some_ discrimination from men who don't want a partner taller than him, but those men don't deride tall women at all. And i think a tall women stand a better chance at initiating a date with a shorter man, than the reverse.

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Post by kolinko »

throwaway515 wrote: post #168
aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

How about trying a different city/country? In Warsaw, Poland, the gender inbalance is like 2 to 1 single women to men around the age of 35. This makes women drop certain criteria, and height may be one of the first to go.

I heard that in NYC in US it’s similar.

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Post by chii »

pell wrote: post #72
filoleg wrote: post #40

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> I wonder if this is unique to Western/materialistic cultures or more widespread. Not at all, you just don't seem like someone who has much exposure to the world outside of "western cultures". Which is unfortunate, because the rest of your comment has a lot of pretty interesting points to ponder. As others have mentioned in replies, plastic surgery in South Korea is so commonplace and integral to everyday life, it w…

The Western equivalent is probably braces. They’re not medically necessary in the vast majority of cases and usually more invasive and painful than either nose or eyelid surgery. Yet most people don’t seem to consider them in the same category at all.

braces could be invasive, but i think only for very badly formed teeth.

And i also think braces makes for better teeth health, since straight teeth is less likely to accumulate plaque and cause gum issues in the future. It's not purely cosmetic.

Teeth whitening, on the other hand, is purely cosmetic and i suspect, entirely unnecessary. I dunno how dangerous it is either, but it can't be healthy to bleach your teeth!

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