It's pretty telling that the surgeon they mention advertises on the same social networks that cause the underlying body image issues. Clearly he knows that the people using these apps regularly will make up a disproportionate share of his clientele.
Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular
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#162This is the kind of surgery I might expect someone who is closer to 5 feet might use to get nearer to normal range. I'm pretty much average myself (71 inches) and I wouldn't look at a 67 inch tall guy and think "wow he's short." He's still taller than the vast majority of women. I think the money would be better spent on therapy if it really is that depressing to be 5'7". Also, anybody making short jokes is a jerk an…
I really hate the idea that people dealing with actual problems with objective evidence of being real problems should go to therapy at substantial cost to have somebody gaslight them into believing that their real problems don't matter. Sure somebody could have delusional views of how much their height matters, and such people could consider therapy, but I'd reckon most people glum about their height have a pretty objective view of it.
The biggest issue I have with limb lengthening surgery is that it's expensive and likely to lead to a lifetime of pain and, lets be real, if you DO become genetically successful you're going to have your son be in the same position of subjecting himself to a lifetime of pain to be sexually successful.
I guess my only advise is the controversial view that you should do nothing and shrug your shoulders at the arbitrary nature of the world. Maybe buy some heel lifts and wear them to your job interviews. Putin does it and it doesn't require you to experience a lifetime of pain. Lie about your height on the internet too.
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#163> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…
Yes and no. It's complicated.
Mate selection is not and should not be institutionalized which means that you are within your rights to discriminate on...anything. Your criteria may be based on "taste", past experiences or downright prejudice. It is inevitable that as you pick a mate, you discriminate.
You can't stop that nor should you. We can however openly discuss criteria that are unhealthy, perverted, make no sense...in an attempt to open people's minds. Not to control whom they can date, rather to open up possibilities. People may be missing out a lot by being needlessly restrictive.
As old man I might provide a shortcut. Cliche as it is, character stands the test of time. What is somebody like? Select for that, the rest is a bonus.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm somewhere between 5' 7" and 5' 8". I've experienced the "filter" issue with online dating, but my conclusions are entirely different. I really don't mind it, in fact I appreciate it. Anyone who would filter me out over something as shallow as height would undoubtedly be an extraordinarily poor match for me. I prefer quality over quantity. As to the "die alone" thing - that seems a bit grim. I'm 46, since age 14 w…
I knew there would be answers of the style 'I'm short and Im great with girls' yes, but you are only a data point. I'm talking here of statistics, and in general short guys have it bad, according to online dating sites. You can easily do an experiment with a fake profile and see it yourself.
Is that what I said?
I acknowledge that there's a difference and that it needs to be made up for in other ways.
Everyone has challenges. Tall people, minorities, gay people, short people, poor people, rich people... the list is endless.
We all have challenges.
We shouldn't measure ourselves by our challenges. We should measure ourselves by the effort we put in to overcome.
When I see a handicapped person climb a mountain, the thing I find extraordinary isn't the handicap, it's the phenomenal effort to transcend.
I don't have anything close to those problems. I'm just a bit vertically challenged.
I'll be double damned if I'm going to let that hold me back, or bemoan how unlucky I am because of it.
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#165That's incredibly sad, the comparison to boob and nose jobs is apt. It's a symptom of a sick society when people are so insecure about their bodies they feel they have to undergo unnecessary surgery to fit in. My cousin had this procedure done almost 30 years ago, but she was pathologically small, at a height which makes it hard to function.
As someone who got a nose job, I’ve heard this line too many times to count. It seems that people want to believe the only reason I would remove the hump on my nose is because of society’s beauty standards. I’m not allowed to simply not like it. Why this same logic doesn’t apply to hair dye or clothing, I’ll never know. Y’know what’s funny too? I’ve never once met someone who both admired big noses and chose to incre…
This is a sensitive topic so don't expect people to comment with anecdotes about people who do want to enhance their nose. That being said, it is popular enough to warrant some businesses [1]. We are also talking about a medical surgery that might not be sufficient for people's needs. Much easier to remove material than add it to the body.
[1] - https://www.floridacosmeticsurgerycenter.com/services/plasti...
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#166This could be helpful to people who wants to enter some kind of jobs who need more height (like being a police agent in some European countries), but I find a huge thing for other reasons. For what it means to dating, I think the requirement to be at least 6 feet tall for US women would disappear due to statistics (the mean male height in the USA is 5'9"). Heck, some guys who are 5'7" or 5'9" says to those women they…
Do you actually think they will be fit for police jobs after such surgeries?
Probably not, but I know cases where some people had silicon prothesis implanted in the head to get up to 5 cm (about 2 inches) of height to pass the requirement, so I won't be surprised someone do this instead.
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#167I find these subtle, yet extremely intense neuroses we see so often in Western cultures fascinating. The patient remarks on one TikTok video in particular that seemingly tormented him. I had never once thought a few inches height difference in a couple was odd or even worth remarking upon and yet there seems to be this vast, largely untapped sensitivity in men being short. Similar things for sexual activity (incels)…
> I wonder if this is unique to Western/materialistic cultures or more widespread. Not at all, you just don't seem like someone who has much exposure to the world outside of "western cultures". Which is unfortunate, because the rest of your comment has a lot of pretty interesting points to ponder. As others have mentioned in replies, plastic surgery in South Korea is so commonplace and integral to everyday life, it w…
This is a pretty bad counter-example considering S. Korea is by far the most Westernized place in Asia.
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#168> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…
>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…
> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future.
I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-in-person exaggeration would gain me a couple of percentile points at most.
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#169> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…
Yep. Nobody wants to talk about it, but the amount of abuse that is directed from otherwise-socially-conscious women towards short men is pretty disgusting. It's extremely common for groups of women to laugh at and deride short men, both online and publicly in real life. It's eye-opening. (And before you ask, no I am not short, I've just witnessed the abuse first hand).
Didn't see any study about that, but its true that women not only reject unfit men (short, poor, etc.) but sometimes are actively hostile and abusive to them. Perhaps is a instinctive behavior from a past were rapes were much more common than today.
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#170This guy Scott was 5'7". His attitude about his height was a mental illness and shouldn't be validated, it should be treated.