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Post by shukantpal »

pell wrote: post #72
filoleg wrote: post #40

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> I wonder if this is unique to Western/materialistic cultures or more widespread. Not at all, you just don't seem like someone who has much exposure to the world outside of "western cultures". Which is unfortunate, because the rest of your comment has a lot of pretty interesting points to ponder. As others have mentioned in replies, plastic surgery in South Korea is so commonplace and integral to everyday life, it w…

The Western equivalent is probably braces. They’re not medically necessary in the vast majority of cases and usually more invasive and painful than either nose or eyelid surgery. Yet most people don’t seem to consider them in the same category at all.

I guess to an outsider they don’t seem invasive. I didn’t realize they were invasive like surgeries

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Post by throwaway284534 »

ad404b8a372f2b9 wrote: post #18

That's incredibly sad, the comparison to boob and nose jobs is apt. It's a symptom of a sick society when people are so insecure about their bodies they feel they have to undergo unnecessary surgery to fit in. My cousin had this procedure done almost 30 years ago, but she was pathologically small, at a height which makes it hard to function.

As someone who got a nose job, I’ve heard this line too many times to count. It seems that people want to believe the only reason I would remove the hump on my nose is because of society’s beauty standards. I’m not allowed to simply not like it. Why this same logic doesn’t apply to hair dye or clothing, I’ll never know.

Y’know what’s funny too? I’ve never once met someone who both admired big noses and chose to increase the size of their own. I guess that’s society for you…

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Post by altdataseller »

messe wrote: post #107
rootusrootus wrote: post #60

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I know it's not what you're referring to, but I just have to say that the first doctor to figure out a really plausible way to add a couple inches of penis length without serious side effects is going to be very wealthy.

They’ll have a hard time marketing it though (no pun intended), given the state of spam filtering.

Also hard to really convince ppl given there’s already a ton of spam products that tell you they help make your member bigger.

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Post by xeromal »

chrischen wrote: post #96
xeromal wrote: post #80

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I would say that past preferences are simpler than malnutrition. The biggest brute wins. People feel safe around bigger people if they're on their team. I met Thor Bjornson a few years ago and meeting him was terrifying. I can see that trait as being desirable just from a protection and safety perspective. Like you said though, that's less necessary in this day and age.

Even if you add that and other hunter-gatherer positive qualities, those don't apply in modern society as much either. Today the frail rich nerd wins, for the most part (or at least their ability to kill a man wit their bare hands matters a lot, lot less).

Agreed. I'll also say though that we have these preferences and a lot of them are hardwired. Some come from upbringing but our brains looking for symmetry in a face or perhaps certain features on men or women come from our DNA.

I find women of a certain size and shape attractive. That doesn't mean I can't find other kinds of women attractive, but you're doing the argument a disservice if you don't think at least some of our preferences are innate.

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Post by xeromal »

thoms_a wrote: post #120
chrischen wrote: post #96

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Even if you add that and other hunter-gatherer positive qualities, those don't apply in modern society as much either. Today the frail rich nerd wins, for the most part (or at least their ability to kill a man wit their bare hands matters a lot, lot less).

I was wondering how far I had to scroll down to find one person (on HN no less) finally stating the obvious. Thor could be 8ft tall and able to lift to a house. It won't save him from a drone swarm designed by a nerd at Lockheed.

I don't think anyone is arguing who has greater modern power. I think people are just arguing if the preferences are created through upbringing or do they come from something more innate in our biology.

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Post by aortega »

chrischen wrote: post #116
aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

Lucky for short people, height is a lot less of a factor in modern society. Wealth is a much bigger factor. And what's the best path to wealth? Software . Even more lucky for them, software and internet doesn't care about height.

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Post by chrischen »

SemanticStrengh wrote: post #111
aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

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Various amounts of social conditioning. In fact, that's how all our preferences are shaped. Some people like ratatouille, some people like sushi.

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Post by omginternets »

xvector wrote: post #101
omginternets wrote: post #53

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>There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. I get where you're coming from -- criticizing people for what they are, rather than for what they do, is exceedingly unfair -- but I can think of at least three important differences, chief among which are: 1. The shortness of men (barring outright dwarfism) has never bee…

no one is comparing the historical treatment of short people to slaves; they are comparing how preference for some unchangeable attributes are somehow acceptable but preference for others are not. you are forcing additional context where there is none.

That's just untrue. The claim is that there is "really no difference" between discriminating against Blacks and short people. There are several important differences, and they relate directly to the historical treatment of Black people.

You are arguing in bad faith, just like the OP.

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Post by chrischen »

aortega wrote: post #115
SemanticStrengh wrote: post #111

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Being tall had several competitive advantages in the past. Basically before guns were invented the bigger guy usually could kill smaller guys, and get more food for the family. Quite obvious that women would prefer the big guy, and instincts don't change that quickly.

I think they actually change faster than most would think. While that specific reason for preferring big guys is out-dated, more recently malnutrition and destitution have been a black mark on short people.

The reason I think societal trends move faster than we think is that I think it was only in the middle of the last century that we still preferred fatter bodies.

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