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Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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Well this is kind of funny and I mostly agree so TLDR: > "I’m afraid all of this sounds rather negative. Well. There’s a reason I left particle physics. Particle physics has degenerated into a paper production enterprise that is of virtually no relevance for societal progress or for progress in any other discipline of science. The only reason we still hear so much about it is that a lot of funding goes into it and so…

There are a lot of other areas of physics, some even involving the use of colliders, that are in better position and value to make discoveries that either advance our understanding and/or have applied/commercial application. One example is the National Synchrotron Light Source II at Brookhaven. The money spent nationally and globally on these types of facilities are a fraction of what goes to LHC or, not long ago, th…

Yes, those kind of projects have a lot more uses and deserve more funding and attention. Stanford's Linac Coherent Light Source is another example:

> "The Linac Coherent Light Source at SLAC takes X-ray snapshots of atoms and molecules at work, revealing fundamental processes in materials, technology and living things."

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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> but to borrow a German idiom, don’t eat the headlines as hot as they’re cooked. I'm German and I have never heard this before, but I like it.

I think it's reffering to "Nichts wird so heiß gegessen wie es gekocht wird", which translates to "Nothing get's eaten as hot as it get's cooked.".

Ahhhh, that. I only ever heard it being used in relation to imagining bad future events that turn out far better than expected.

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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> but to borrow a German idiom, don’t eat the headlines as hot as they’re cooked. I'm German and I have never heard this before, but I like it.

It's definitely a Czech idiom - "nic se nejí tak horké, jak se to uvaří". But apparently German has this, too: https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/es_wird_nichts_so_hei%C3%9F_g...

That reminds me, I saw something similar on this Ukrainian music video about Bayraktar drones too.

Timestamp 0:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXVu_DeB4wo

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This part also stand out to me. It is unfortunate that a science communicator would express her research preference in such a way. It is true there were no breakthrough in ages in the particle physics (standard model works extremely well), it is true "paper production" has disproportionate influence on funding (applicable to academia in general), personally I'm excited about the recent deployment of Webb space telesc…

> It is unfortunate that a science communicator would express her research preference in such a way. It is disappointing, and more unfortunately pretty much her personal brand now. There are, as she seems to have discovered, a lot of eyeballs to be had when you bash things that are poorly understood and already looked down upon for it. She's a fine physicist and her points have merit, but she's smart enough to be per…

> doing what she can to undermine them.

She's not trying to undermine anyone, just giving her opinion about where funding should go in order to actually advance our knowledge of the world.

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly in Dutch, de soep wordt niet zo heet gegeten als ze wordt opgediend. In this case it's soup that's not eaten as hot as it is served.

Is soup popular in Dutch cuisine? Honestly asking. Etymologies of aphorisms (especially multiple cultural ones) fascinate me.

Not particularly popular, especially nowadays. "Snert", a thick pea soup with pork, is a classic winter dish though.

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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It is not my field, but the post, the video, has all the markings I see of outrage influencers on youtube: acting like they know better than everyone else, making broad swipes and claims, posting monetized videos with exaggerated eye popping photo covers, and the whole "I used to be them but saw the light and left schtick.", claims of scientists lying, without the honesty of naming names. Well, I'd rather get this kind of review from a review article in a solid journal than this tabloid.

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is unfortunate that a science communicator would express her research preference in such a way. It is disappointing, and more unfortunately pretty much her personal brand now. There are, as she seems to have discovered, a lot of eyeballs to be had when you bash things that are poorly understood and already looked down upon for it. She's a fine physicist and her points have merit, but she's smart enough to be per…

> doing what she can to undermine them. She's not trying to undermine anyone, just giving her opinion about where funding should go in order to actually advance our knowledge of the world.

She definitely tried to undermine LIGO. This is a very carefully written article designed to cast shade: http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/09/whats-up-with-ligo....

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This part also stand out to me. It is unfortunate that a science communicator would express her research preference in such a way. It is true there were no breakthrough in ages in the particle physics (standard model works extremely well), it is true "paper production" has disproportionate influence on funding (applicable to academia in general), personally I'm excited about the recent deployment of Webb space telesc…

> It is unfortunate that a science communicator would express her research preference in such a way. It is disappointing, and more unfortunately pretty much her personal brand now. There are, as she seems to have discovered, a lot of eyeballs to be had when you bash things that are poorly understood and already looked down upon for it. She's a fine physicist and her points have merit, but she's smart enough to be per…

There is a limited pool of resources available to do basic fundamental science and it's fair to argue that things like LHC have absorbed a disproportionate share of these scare resources, without a whole lot to show for it. Since it's the general public that ultimately funds these projects (unless the LHC can attract its own Jeff Bezos), I think it is OK to have a public discussion about it.

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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Well this is kind of funny and I mostly agree so TLDR: > "I’m afraid all of this sounds rather negative. Well. There’s a reason I left particle physics. Particle physics has degenerated into a paper production enterprise that is of virtually no relevance for societal progress or for progress in any other discipline of science. The only reason we still hear so much about it is that a lot of funding goes into it and so…

> But the disciplines where the foundations of physics currently make progress are cosmology and astrophysics, and everything quantum, quantum information, quantum computing, quantum metrology, and so on

Everybody ignores the condensed matter people!

Re: Did the W-boson just “break the standard model”?

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post #16

Well this is kind of funny and I mostly agree so TLDR: > "I’m afraid all of this sounds rather negative. Well. There’s a reason I left particle physics. Particle physics has degenerated into a paper production enterprise that is of virtually no relevance for societal progress or for progress in any other discipline of science. The only reason we still hear so much about it is that a lot of funding goes into it and so…

This part also stand out to me. It is unfortunate that a science communicator would express her research preference in such a way. It is true there were no breakthrough in ages in the particle physics (standard model works extremely well), it is true "paper production" has disproportionate influence on funding (applicable to academia in general), personally I'm excited about the recent deployment of Webb space telesc…

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