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Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by warner25 »

goosedragons wrote: post #176
warner25 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody can take them away, but the problem that I've found with with physical DVDs (I can't comment so much on CDs) is that they deteriorate after just a few years. For a while in 2010, my wife and I routinely borrowed DVDs from a library, but we gave up when it seemed like half of them were unplayable; sometimes from the beginning, sometimes freezing an hour into the movie. Over the next five years, we found that ou…

That's weird. Are you sure wherever or however you're storing them isn't damaging them somehow? Or maybe your player is on the way out? I've played some very old discs that work just fine. I haven't had any issues with DVDs despite having a few from the early 2000s. Library discs are another story. Those are abused to hell and back.

It's a fair question, and I don't have a good answer. My best guess is the effects of heat while the discs were in moving boxes for several cross-country and overseas moves. Some of our discs looked like they were delaminated.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by thisisjasononhn »

eredengrin wrote: post #188
thisisjasononhn wrote: post #126

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>I think while CDs (and DVDs, and Blu-rays) are still being sold, they should 100% shift to carboard packaging instead of plastic. Hard disagree. I sold my large collection of records recently, for 2 reasons. 1. Because I realized I hadn't listened to effectively any of them in the past 5 years, across 2 house moves. I'm leaving on travel soon and may work abroad in the future, so better to liquidate now than later.…

I'm currently in the process of getting rid of all my plastic jewel cases and agree with op, it should not be the default, there's better ways. If there's a market for plastic they could just sell collector's editions or package it in such a way that it's easy to use your own jewel cases, but I'd prefer a less wasteful default. Steelbook blu rays are on the right track in the collectables regard although they still u…

What are you using instead of plastic jewel cases? I just really can't see any alternative that's as safe, reliable, and easy to replace.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by justsomehnguy »

txsoftwaredev wrote: post #134
greggman3 wrote: post #100

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I had ~1100 CDs in 2000. Now I have close to 0. I don't even own a device I could play a CD in nor rip it. None of my 4 PCs (3 Macs, one Gaming Windows Box) have a CD (nor DVD nor Bluray) player. Instead I have about 9000 mp3 files. I find streaming services frustrating because their recommendation algorithm suck. I tried playing "Swing" and it gave me "Volare" by Dean Martin. (that's not Swing), I pick Prince Radio…

If you can organize and manage 9k mp3 files could you not just as easily setup your own playlists on spotify?

Despite iTunes fans bashing me since iTunes inception the simple file structure

    Artist
        Album
    Artist
        Album
    Game OST
        Game Name
    Film OST
        Film Name
works just fine.

With WinAmp's quick jump it was a blast to navigate.

(just checked - my mp3 folder has 6231 files)

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by browningstreet »

nine_k wrote: post #177
browningstreet wrote: post #142

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Same... literally. About 1200 CDs in 2000, I ripped them at some point and sold them when I became a digital nomad. I have no idea where those rips are; I think I may have just liked them all on Spotify and kept a folder of obscure albums I wasn't likely to find online. But I'm not sure where that folder is. I bounce between Spotify and Youtube Music and Apple Music. I recently got into Apple Music library curation b…

Did you notice how tracks and whole albums sometimes disappear from Spotify? If not yet, you're in for a unpleasant surprise.

Yeah, I’ve noticed. I get that licensing issues drift over time, but it just means it’s not in my best interest to care a whole lot.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by Guthur »

throw0101a wrote: post #58
Guthur wrote: post #12

And yet the author uses figures to also generate a false dichotomy. Just because a gap in income might be wider does not mean everyone is worse off, it is not a zero sum game. There is now far more music variety available than ever before, and I'm sure it's more and more difficult to stand out. What has probably been lost is some word of mouth for music, the algorithms have taken much of that over for better or worse…

> And yet the author uses figures to also generate a false dichotomy. Just because a gap in income might be wider does not mean everyone is worse off, it is not a zero sum game. It is, in fact, zero sum. Spotify puts the money for music streaming into a pot and payouts out proportionally to how much time a particular artists is listened to. Given there (a) a finite amount of money in the pot, and (b) a finite amount…

I don't use Spotify at all so not sure your point. I've listen to google play, amazon music, random guy on YouTube, random busker on the street.

I hazard that more people are making money from music than ever before, maybe not mainstream but it's there.

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Post by antifa »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #190
ufmace wrote: post #146

Aside from CDs themselves, has anyone noticed a severe lack of CD players these days? I might be off-base, but as far as I can tell, basically no laptop computer and rather few desktops come with any type of optical media drives these days. Haven't shopped for a car in a while, but I don't think I've seen one with a CD player either. Most music seems to be consumed on phones and tablets, where it's basically impossib…

> Haven't shopped for a car in a while, but I don't think I've seen one with a CD player either. They're still somehow around (don't know for how long). A friend of mine bought a MY2020 BMW and the original owner specc'ed a CD player. My car also still has one (MY2013). I care about my physical CD collection but I don't care about actually putting them in a CD player: as long as I can rip them to FLAC, I'm happy. Vir…

> I care about my physical CD collection but I don't care about actually putting them in a CD player:

Indeed, get into an accident or hit a rare bump and now your CD is scratched.

Not sure if this would still happen in 2022, but at the least back in the day an entire music collection of original CDs was worth stealing in a car break in.

Only put easily replacable copies in your car.

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Post by webmaven »

needle0 wrote: post #33
webmaven wrote: post #26

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> IANAL, but ripping a CD that you own and then using that digital music yourself is legal - providing the songs to someone else (who hasn't paid for the album) isn't. I am also not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that providing files you ripped to someone else ISN'T legal, even if they"ve paid for the album: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_Recordings,_Inc._v._MP3.... .

Of relevance: https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23

Oh my. Fruit of the Poisoned Tree gone amok.

Thanks for sharing that.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by Gerito »

Jaruzel wrote: post #45

I still buy Music CDs. Why? Because once I have the disc in my hand, no-one can legally take it away from me. I can enjoy the contents legally until I'm dead, all for a single one-off payment with no-expiry. However, my households use of streaming media (mainly Spotify) has increased for 'casual' listening, so I think there is a balance, and I hope that buying physical media for music wont disappear completely any ti…

I'm really not sure if I follow you.

Why exactly do you buy a physical medium?

Because you don't think you are able to store 1000 audio CDs loss less for the rest of your life?

I mean that's not that much of space.

You probably have other similar critical things like pictures or videos so you have to have a backup strategy for that anyway.

And what music would you have which would be so unique that in the worst case scenario you are happy that you still have those 1000 music CDs but no longer your pictures etc?

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by jmrm »

Have you ever thought that most brand new cars does not have any CD/DVD player to listen to music? But hey, all of them have USB connections and have Spotify. I think that this is a big deal because a lot of people only listen to music while driving.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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Post by slothtrop »

Cockbrand wrote: post #48
Semaphor wrote: post #29

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> Sure they have the most popular stuff That sounds like you need to try bandcamp, because they are missing the most popular stuff ;)

Bandcamp really is a treasure trove for finding releases of established and new independent artists. It seems that their business model is quite fair towards artists as well. It also seems that their acquisition by Epic games hasn't negatively affected them so far. [Edit]: And they offer all downloads I've encountered so far in several lossy and lossless formats, including FLAC and WAV

The acquisition is still quite fresh. I'm not looking forward to the policy changes once they do roll out.
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