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There Is No CD Revival

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Re: There Is No CD Revival

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I was buying CDs to rip lossless right up until Apple Music added lossless. Now I am down to just very special releases/extremely loved albums I wouldn’t mind being my “car cd” when I don’t want to listen to the radio or fiddle with my phone

The crazy part of my brain, every time I add a cloud album to my Apple Music library wants to set away $15 for when this all comes crashing down and I have to actually buy it.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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post #12

And yet the author uses figures to also generate a false dichotomy. Just because a gap in income might be wider does not mean everyone is worse off, it is not a zero sum game. There is now far more music variety available than ever before, and I'm sure it's more and more difficult to stand out. What has probably been lost is some word of mouth for music, the algorithms have taken much of that over for better or worse…

> And yet the author uses figures to also generate a false dichotomy. Just because a gap in income might be wider does not mean everyone is worse off, it is not a zero sum game. It is, in fact, zero sum. Spotify puts the money for music streaming into a pot and payouts out proportionally to how much time a particular artists is listened to. Given there (a) a finite amount of money in the pot, and (b) a finite amount…

> a finite amount of time that people can listen to Spotify (per person, and cumulatively)

The amount of time people can spend listening is finite. But the amount of time that people do spend listening is decidedly elastic.

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#163
post #45

I still buy Music CDs. Why? Because once I have the disc in my hand, no-one can legally take it away from me. I can enjoy the contents legally until I'm dead, all for a single one-off payment with no-expiry. However, my households use of streaming media (mainly Spotify) has increased for 'casual' listening, so I think there is a balance, and I hope that buying physical media for music wont disappear completely any ti…

I had ~1100 CDs in 2000. Now I have close to 0. I don't even own a device I could play a CD in nor rip it. None of my 4 PCs (3 Macs, one Gaming Windows Box) have a CD (nor DVD nor Bluray) player. Instead I have about 9000 mp3 files. I find streaming services frustrating because their recommendation algorithm suck. I tried playing "Swing" and it gave me "Volare" by Dean Martin. (that's not Swing), I pick Prince Radio…

> (Prince has no relation to rap)

Prince certainly created some songs that would qualify as rap, and they were some fairly big hits:

My Name is Prince: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0g9Qkrc8nE

Sexy MF, including the rap section here: https://youtu.be/bfHsF6FKgb4?t=324

A compilation of some Prince raps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ez4iEHtAuw

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#164
post #146

Aside from CDs themselves, has anyone noticed a severe lack of CD players these days? I might be off-base, but as far as I can tell, basically no laptop computer and rather few desktops come with any type of optical media drives these days. Haven't shopped for a car in a while, but I don't think I've seen one with a CD player either. Most music seems to be consumed on phones and tablets, where it's basically impossib…

The baseline radio in many cars is an AM/FM with Bluetooth or Audio in. CD is usually still provided with the upgraded package, but many people don’t have stereos at all anymore - let alone one with a CD player.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#165
post #89

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Oh, I didn't realize CDs didn't have copy protection? Why would they not? From the RIAA's perspective, isn't that just a way to double charge customers like the MPAA does?

CDs are older than DVDs, and when they were released there would have been no digital way to copy them. It makes sense that the DRM wouldn't have occurred to the developers of the format.

Also at the time they came out 640MB?! Who has that much money to keep on hard drive let alone the size of said drive. Remember when this was spec'd out 64k was considered a huge amount of memory. A box of floppies would cost 30-40+ dollars. That same box might hold 0.5 to 2 MP3s depending on format size and the song. That obviously dropped off over the years. But just ripping them was not even really feasible. Never mind a robust enough CPU to play something like a MP3. People would copy CD's over to tape. But that was considered acceptable as the gen loss was enough for the owners to not like it much but accept it.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#166
post #45

I still buy Music CDs. Why? Because once I have the disc in my hand, no-one can legally take it away from me. I can enjoy the contents legally until I'm dead, all for a single one-off payment with no-expiry. However, my households use of streaming media (mainly Spotify) has increased for 'casual' listening, so I think there is a balance, and I hope that buying physical media for music wont disappear completely any ti…

>I think while CDs (and DVDs, and Blu-rays) are still being sold, they should 100% shift to carboard packaging instead of plastic. Hard disagree. I sold my large collection of records recently, for 2 reasons. 1. Because I realized I hadn't listened to effectively any of them in the past 5 years, across 2 house moves. I'm leaving on travel soon and may work abroad in the future, so better to liquidate now than later.…

I've been using these 6x9 inch clear poly bags with adhesive seal: https://amazon.com/gp/product/B07X8C58BK Amazon ID: B07X8C58BK

I still use the paper sleeve with window for individual discs. Then bag those + paper inserts. I like those particular bags because they're consistently thin unlike zip-lock style bags so they pack nicely, and they fit most DVD paper inserts/cardboard sleeves except some multi-disc sets.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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post #17
post #14

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Do you retain ownership of the files upon cancelling your membership? If not, I wouldn't consider that "acquiring" so much as "borrowing".

You do. They have some kind of a watermark or metadata specific to your copy but don't have DRM.

Only for iTunes ones, not Apple Music.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had ~1100 CDs in 2000. Now I have close to 0. I don't even own a device I could play a CD in nor rip it. None of my 4 PCs (3 Macs, one Gaming Windows Box) have a CD (nor DVD nor Bluray) player. Instead I have about 9000 mp3 files. I find streaming services frustrating because their recommendation algorithm suck. I tried playing "Swing" and it gave me "Volare" by Dean Martin. (that's not Swing), I pick Prince Radio…

If you can organize and manage 9k mp3 files could you not just as easily setup your own playlists on spotify?

This is just my own personal perspective on the matter but one could do that until the Spotify domain is gone. The mp3's will remain provided they have a habit of keeping their software backed up. I have CD's, DVD's and music files going back as far as such things existed and no internet connection is required for any of it.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#169
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I didn't realize CDs didn't have copy protection? Why would they not? From the RIAA's perspective, isn't that just a way to double charge customers like the MPAA does?

CDs are older than DVDs, and when they were released there would have been no digital way to copy them. It makes sense that the DRM wouldn't have occurred to the developers of the format.

I remember asking the HS computing teacher in the late 80s if CDs could be copied to a computer, since they were both digital. He said... hmm, it should be theoretically possible. Drives for PCs would not come out affordably until the early/mid 90s.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#170
post #4

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Qobuz allows you to download High Fidelity music without any DRM

Yeah, there are lots of places selling DRM free, lossless music. However, between the lot of them they fall far short of comprehensive coverage and I frequently have to buy and rip CDs to get the music I want.

And occasionally you run into weird issues like where all online offerings are missing the pre-gap material from the CD, i.e. the bits between the tracks that are shown with a negative timestamp and which are only played when you play the disc straight through without hopping between different tracks.

Plus liner notes are often omitted online, and occasionally that, too, is a little bit of a shame, even if the main thing is of course the music itself.

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